From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xemul@openvz.org,
sukadev@us.ibm.com, ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace.
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:47:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5C6219.8060207@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110215190118.GA16707@redhat.com>
On 02/15/2011 08:01 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/15, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> - Pass both nsproxy->pid_ns and task_active_pid_ns to copy_pid_ns
>> As they can now be different.
> But since they can be different we have to convert some users of
> current->nsproxy first? But that patch was dropped.
>
>> Unsharing of the pid namespace unlike unsharing of other namespaces
>> does not take effect immediately. Instead it affects the children
>> created with fork and clone.
> IOW, unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) implicitly affects the subsequent fork(),
> using the very subtle way.
>
> I have to admit, I can't say I like this very much. OK, if we need
> this, can't we just put something into, say, signal->flags so that
> copy_process can check and create the new namespace.
>
> Also. I remember, I already saw something like this and google found
> my questions. I didn't actually read the new version, perhaps my
> concerns were already answered...
>
> But what if the task T does unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) and then, say,
> pthread_create() ? Unless I missed something, the new thread won't
> be able to see T ?
Right. Is it really a problem ? I mean it is a weird use case where we
fall in a weird situation.
I suppose we can do the same weird combination with clone.
IMHO, the userspace is responsible of how it uses the syscalls. Until
the system is safe, everything is ok, no ?
> and, in this case the exiting sub-namespace init also kills its
> parent?
I don't think so because the zap_pid_ns_processes does not hit the
parent process when it browses the pidmap.
I tried the following program without problem:
#include <stdio.h>
#define _GNU_SOURCE
#include <sched.h>
#include <pthread.h>
void *routine(void *data)
{
printf("pid %d!\n", getpid());
return NULL;
}
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
char **aux = &argv[1];
pthread_t t;
if (unshare(CLONE_NEWPID)) {
perror("unshare");
return -1;
}
if (pthread_create(&t, NULL, routine, NULL)) {
perror("pthread_create");
return -1;
}
if (pthread_join(t, NULL)) {
perror("pthread_join");
return -1;
}
printf("joined\n");
return 0;
}
> OK, suppose it does fork() after unshare(), then another fork().
> In this case the second child lives in the same namespace with
> init created by the 1st fork, but it is not descendant ? This means
> in particular that if the new init exits, zap_pid_ns_processes()->
> do_wait() can't work.
Hmm, good question. IMO, we should prevent such case for now in the same
way we added the flag 'dead', IOW adding a flag 'busy' for example.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-16 23:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-15 16:53 [PATCH 1/2] pidns: Don't allow new pids after the namespace is dead Daniel Lezcano
2011-02-15 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace Daniel Lezcano
2011-02-15 19:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 19:15 ` [PATCH 0/1] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/1][3rd resend] sys_unshare: remove the dead CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND/VM code Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-21 0:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-02-16 23:47 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2011-02-17 20:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-17 22:35 ` Greg Kurz
2011-02-18 14:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-24 1:12 ` Rob Landley
2011-02-15 18:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] pidns: Don't allow new pids after the namespace is dead Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 23:21 ` Daniel Lezcano
2011-02-17 20:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
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