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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:11:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D638BDE.70602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110221172807.GD16508@amd.com>

On 02/21/2011 07:28 PM, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
> >  - what's the cost of wrmsr(TSC_MULT)?
>
> Hard to tell by now because I only have numbers for pre-production
> hardware.

Can you ask your hardware people what the cost will likely be?  msrs are 
often expensive, and here we have two in the lightweight exit path.

> >  There are really two ways to implement this feature.  One is fully
> >  generic, like you did.  The other is to implement it at the host level -
> >  have a sysfs file and/or kernel parameter for the desired tsc frequency,
> >  write it once, and forget about it.  Trust management to set the host
> >  tsc frequency to the same value on all hosts in a migration cluster.
>
> The motivation here is mostly the flexibility. Scale the TSC for the
> whole migration cluster only makes sense if all hosts there support the
> feature. But the most likely scenario is that existing migration
> clusters will be extended by new machines and guests will be migrated
> there. And these guests should be able to see the same TSC frequency on
> the new host as the had on the old one. The older machines in the
> cluster may even have different TSC frequencys. With this flexible
> implementation those scenarios are possible. A host-wide setting for the
> scaling will make the feature useless in those (common) scenarios.

This doesn't really work, since we don't know on what host the TSC 
calibration loop ran:

- start guest on host H1
- migrate it around, now it's on host H2
- guest reboots, reruns calibration loop
- migrate it around some more, now it's on host H3
- migrate to host with tsc multiplier Hnew

So, what should we set the multiplier to? H1, H2, or H3's tsc rate?

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-22 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-09 17:29 [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: SVM: Advance instruction pointer in dr_intercept Joerg Roedel
2011-02-22 11:14   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 14:01     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 14:33       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: SVM: Implement infrastructure for TSC_RATE_MSR Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: X86: Let kvm-clock report the right tsc frequency Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: SVM: Propagate requested TSC frequency on vcpu init Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: X86: Delegate tsc-offset calculation to architecture code Joerg Roedel
2011-02-11 22:12   ` Zachary Amsden
2011-02-21 17:16     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: X86: Implement userspace interface to set virtual_tsc_khz Joerg Roedel
2011-02-13 15:12   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-21 17:17     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-13 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling Avi Kivity
2011-02-21 17:28   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-21 21:25     ` Zachary Amsden
2011-02-22 10:11     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-22 10:35       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 10:41         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 11:11           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 14:11             ` Avi Kivity

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