From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:11:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D638BDE.70602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110221172807.GD16508@amd.com>
On 02/21/2011 07:28 PM, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
> > - what's the cost of wrmsr(TSC_MULT)?
>
> Hard to tell by now because I only have numbers for pre-production
> hardware.
Can you ask your hardware people what the cost will likely be? msrs are
often expensive, and here we have two in the lightweight exit path.
> > There are really two ways to implement this feature. One is fully
> > generic, like you did. The other is to implement it at the host level -
> > have a sysfs file and/or kernel parameter for the desired tsc frequency,
> > write it once, and forget about it. Trust management to set the host
> > tsc frequency to the same value on all hosts in a migration cluster.
>
> The motivation here is mostly the flexibility. Scale the TSC for the
> whole migration cluster only makes sense if all hosts there support the
> feature. But the most likely scenario is that existing migration
> clusters will be extended by new machines and guests will be migrated
> there. And these guests should be able to see the same TSC frequency on
> the new host as the had on the old one. The older machines in the
> cluster may even have different TSC frequencys. With this flexible
> implementation those scenarios are possible. A host-wide setting for the
> scaling will make the feature useless in those (common) scenarios.
This doesn't really work, since we don't know on what host the TSC
calibration loop ran:
- start guest on host H1
- migrate it around, now it's on host H2
- guest reboots, reruns calibration loop
- migrate it around some more, now it's on host H3
- migrate to host with tsc multiplier Hnew
So, what should we set the multiplier to? H1, H2, or H3's tsc rate?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-22 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-09 17:29 [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: SVM: Advance instruction pointer in dr_intercept Joerg Roedel
2011-02-22 11:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 14:33 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: SVM: Implement infrastructure for TSC_RATE_MSR Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: X86: Let kvm-clock report the right tsc frequency Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: SVM: Propagate requested TSC frequency on vcpu init Joerg Roedel
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: X86: Delegate tsc-offset calculation to architecture code Joerg Roedel
2011-02-11 22:12 ` Zachary Amsden
2011-02-21 17:16 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-09 17:29 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: X86: Implement userspace interface to set virtual_tsc_khz Joerg Roedel
2011-02-13 15:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-21 17:17 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-13 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/6] KVM support for TSC scaling Avi Kivity
2011-02-21 17:28 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-21 21:25 ` Zachary Amsden
2011-02-22 10:11 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-22 10:35 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 10:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 11:11 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-02-22 14:11 ` Avi Kivity
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