From: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: questions about init_memory_mapping_high()
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:51:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D657359.5060901@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110223204656.GA27738@atj.dyndns.org>
On 02/23/2011 12:46 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:24:58PM -0800, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>> I guess this was the reason why the commit message showed usage of
>>> 2MiB mappings so that each node would end up with their own third
>>> level page tables. Is this something we need to optimize for? I
>>> don't recall seeing recent machines which don't use 1GiB pages for
>>> the linear mapping. Are there NUMA machines which can't use 1GiB
>>> mappings?
>>
>> till now:
>> amd 64 cpu does support 1gb page.
>>
>> Intel CPU Nehalem-EX does not. and several vendors do provide 8 sockets
>> NUMA system with 1024g and 2048g RAM
>
> That's interesting. Didn't expect that. So, this one is an actually
> valid reason for implementing per node mapping. Is this Nehalem-EX
> only thing? Or is it applicable to all xeons upto now?
only have access for Nehalem-EX and Westmere-EX till now.
>
>>> 3. The new code creates linear mapping only for memory regions where
>>> e820 actually says there is memory as opposed to mapping from base
>>> to top. Again, I'm not sure what the intention of this change was.
>>> Having larger mappings over holes is much cheaper than having to
>>> break down the mappings into smaller sized mappings around the
>>> holes both in terms of memory and run time overhead. Why would we
>>> want to match the linear address mapping to the e820 map exactly?
>>
>> we don't need to map those holes if there is any.
>
> Yeah, sure, my point was that not mapping those holes is likely to be
> worse. Wouldn't it be better to get low and high ends of the occupied
> area and expand those to larger mapping size? It's worse to match the
> memory map exactly. You unnecessarily end up with smaller mappings.
it will reuse previous not used entries in the init_memory_mapping().
>
>> for hotplug case, they should map new added memory later.
>
> Sure.
>
>>> Also, Yinghai, can you please try to write commit descriptions with
>>> more details? It really sucks for other people when they have to
>>> guess what the actual changes and underlying intentions are. The
>>> commit adding init_memory_mapping_high() is very anemic on details
>>> about how the behavior changes and the only intention given there is
>>> RED-PEN removal even which is largely a miss.
>>
>> i don't know what you are talking about. that changelog is clear enough.
>
> Ah well, if you still think the changelog is clear enough, I give up.
> I guess I'll just keep rewriting your changelogs.
Thank you very much.
Yinghai
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-23 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-23 17:19 questions about init_memory_mapping_high() Tejun Heo
2011-02-23 20:24 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-02-23 20:46 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-23 20:51 ` Yinghai Lu [this message]
2011-02-23 21:03 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-23 22:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-02-24 9:15 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-25 1:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-02-25 1:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86,mm: Introduce init_memory_mapping_ext() Yinghai Lu
2011-02-25 6:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86,mm,64bit: Round up memory boundary for init_memory_mapping_high() Yinghai Lu
2011-02-25 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-25 20:22 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-02-26 3:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86, mm: Introduce global page_size_mask Yinghai Lu
2011-02-26 3:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86,mm: Introduce init_memory_mapping_ext() Yinghai Lu
2011-02-26 3:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86,mm,64bit: Round up memory boundary for init_memory_mapping_high() Yinghai Lu
2011-02-26 10:36 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-26 10:55 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-25 11:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Tejun Heo
2011-02-25 20:18 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-02-26 8:57 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-27 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-28 18:14 ` questions about init_memory_mapping_high() H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-01 8:29 ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-01 19:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
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