From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758640Ab1CCTyt (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:54:49 -0500 Received: from lotus.nuim.ie ([149.157.1.189]:57771 "EHLO lotus.nuim.ie" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758533Ab1CCTys (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:54:48 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 562 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:54:48 EST Message-id: <4D6FEFD4.9010608@nuim.ie> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:45:24 -0600 From: Tianji Li User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100430 Fedora/3.0.4-2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-version: 1.0 To: rick.jones2@hp.com Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dave_T=E4ht?= , sedat.dilek@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree References: <20110225222210.GA3618@tuxdriver.com> <87fwr9jxya.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <8739n9ii7z.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <87tyfph2az.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> In-reply-to: <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 03/03/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Jones wrote: >> For wireless routers and cable home gateways especially, this research >> shows that the total un-managed buffers in your system should be less >> than 32. > > Would it be a good thing to start describing these queues not so much in > terms of packets but in terms of delay (or bandwidth X delay)? > The unit of bandwidth is something like Mbps, that of delay can be second, so bandwidth X delay --> Mb, which is the unit of packet size. So both packets and delay should have the same effect for sizing buffers. Tianji > Constants tend to live longer than they should, no matter how noble in > birth. > > rick jones > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat-devel mailing list > Bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat-devel >