From: Akihiro Nagai <akihiro.nagai.hw@hitachi.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
2nddept-manager@sdl.hitachi.co.jp,
David Ahern <daahern@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip v3 0/6] perf: Introduce branch sub commands
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:57:05 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D95AF81.5050306@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330144639.GA2204@nowhere>
(2011/03/30 23:46), Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
<snip>
>> 'perf branch trace' can parse and analyze recorded BTS log and print various
>> information of execution path. This command can show address, pid, command name,
>> function+offset, file path of elf.
>> You can choose the printed information with option.
>>
>> Example: 'perf branch trace'
>> function+offset
>> irq_return+0x0 => _start+0x0
>> irq_return+0x0 => _start+0x0
>> _start+0x3 => _dl_start+0x0
>> irq_return+0x0 => _dl_start+0x0
>> irq_return+0x0 => _dl_start+0x26
>> irq_return+0x0 => _dl_start+0x2d
>
> These results are a bit surprising. May be we can
> jump once from irq_return to _start, in the first schedule()
> of a new task perhaps, but thereafter I would expect
> further jumps not to happen from irq_return, but rather
> from _start. When we have x as a destination in line n, then
> I would expect to have x as a source in n + 1.
Agree with the opinion "irq_start" surprising users.
However, I think it is not a better solution that uses a
previous destination as a next source.
Because, users want to know what happen in userspace and,
do not want to know interrupts from kernel.
I think the better solution is to implement the filter that
eliminate the record including kernel functions from output.
For example, leading example will be filtered like this.
_start+0x3 => _dl_start+0x0
In the future, I think the solution is available that using BTS records
with trace event like irq:irq_handler_entry to analyze interrupt.
However, to do it, we need to fix perf.
>
> Also we are supposed to only trace BTS in userspace, but
> perhaps, if we are interrupted, after the execution of the iret instruction,
> BTS considers the following jump "iret -> interrupted inst" as a branch
> in userspace. After all it makes sense, it is a jump in userspace.
>
> So BTS, because of the way it defines a jump inside userspace,
> traces irq returns but not irq entries, that would explain the trace
> you gave as an example.
>
> I suspect we want to filter irq returns. ie: if the source comes
> from the kernel, then filter it by default. And then we can later
> think about an option to enable interrupt return tracing if
> people want them.
Agree.
I will implement the option that enable/disable the filter.
>
> Thanks.
Thank you for your advise.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-01 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-24 11:31 [PATCH -tip v3 0/6] perf: Introduce branch sub commands Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:31 ` [PATCH -tip v3 1/6] perf: new subcommand perf branch record Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:32 ` [PATCH -tip v3 2/6] perf branch: Introduce new sub command 'perf branch trace' Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:32 ` [PATCH -tip v3 3/6] perf branch trace: print pid and command Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 17:05 ` David Ahern
2011-03-25 10:14 ` Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-25 15:02 ` David Ahern
2011-03-28 10:34 ` Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-28 14:31 ` David Ahern
2011-04-01 15:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-01 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-01 15:24 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-04-01 17:11 ` David Ahern
2011-04-01 20:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 12:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-06 14:09 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-04-06 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 14:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-06 14:34 ` David Ahern
2011-04-06 14:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-06 14:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-06 14:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-06 17:18 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-04-04 10:00 ` Akihiro Nagai
2011-04-06 12:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-11 4:54 ` Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:32 ` [PATCH -tip v3 4/6] perf branch trace: print file path of the executed elf Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:32 ` [PATCH -tip v3 5/6] perf branch trace: print function+offset Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-24 11:32 ` [PATCH -tip v3 6/6] perf branch trace: add print all option Akihiro Nagai
2011-03-30 14:46 ` [PATCH -tip v3 0/6] perf: Introduce branch sub commands Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-01 10:57 ` Akihiro Nagai [this message]
2011-04-01 12:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-01 14:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-04 10:06 ` Akihiro Nagai
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