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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Subhasish Ghosh <subhasish@mistralsolutions.com>,
	sachi@mistralsolutions.com,
	davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Netdev@vger.kernel.org, nsekhar@ti.com,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	CAN NETWORK DRIVERS <socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	m-watkins@ti.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver.
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:04:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DCB8688.7070400@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201105112331.47954.arnd@arndb.de>

On 05/11/2011 11:31 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 May 2011, Subhasish Ghosh wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes, In case if we allow the ALL implementation, it hogs the CPU.
>>>> In that case we do not need the PRU. The whole purpose of the PRU
>>>> is to offload the processor for any such implementations. 
>>>
>>> So the kernel presumably needs to switch between using the PRU and native
>>> according to the number of ids being requested at the time ?
>>
>> All the IDs are programmed into the PRU data RAM.
>> The Kernel receives interrupts based upon these IDs.
>> I could not clearly follow "PRU and native", could you please elaborate.
> 
> We would really like all CAN drivers to behave the same way. All other
> drivers are able to work without filters, so pruss_can should allow that
> too, even if it becomes a CPU hog at that time.
> 
> It seems to me that the pruss can implementation has one thing backwards:
> it assumes a specific usage model for CAN that it is trying to do offload
> for. However, that usage model is currently not even supported by Socket
> CAN. If I understand Wolfgang correctly, it is in fact considered an
> unwanted limitation of the pruss can driver, instead of a useful feature.

"Unwanted" is not the right word. I see it as a piece of CAN hardware
with some serious limitations and I doubt that it will make real CAN
users happy. But well, I might be wrong.

> If that interpretation is right, I would seriously recommend rethinking
> the design of the CAN firmware for pruss, so you can start doing something
> useful with the offload engine that fits into the Socket CAN API, or that
> would be a useful extension to Socket CAN that is also implementable in
> the kernel for all other drivers in a meaningful way.

It would be really nice if they could provide a better firmware. Anyway,
the generic CAN hardware filter interface we spoke about in a previous
mail would fit for the PRUSS CAN hardware as well. It just needs to be
implemented.

Wolfgang.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-12  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1303474267-6344-1-git-send-email-subhasish@mistralsolutions.com>
2011-04-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver Subhasish Ghosh
     [not found]   ` <4DB1A3B7.7060300@pengutronix.de>
2011-04-25 20:06     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:08       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:21         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04  7:13           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04 13:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 14:33               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 14:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 16:00                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-10 10:11                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:27                       ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10 12:21                         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11 21:31                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:44                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 22:39                               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-11 22:56                                 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-12  3:03                                   ` can: hardware vs. software filter Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12  7:13                               ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12 10:58                                 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12 12:54                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-12 13:04                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-12 14:41                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-22 10:30                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-23  6:21                                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-23  8:23                                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-27  8:31                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:04                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2011-05-04 15:57                 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-04 16:09                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 20:55                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-04-27 13:28         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:34           ` Wolfgang Grandegger

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