From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gnatapov@redhat.com,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:49:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDE1419.3000708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110526082451.GB26775@elte.hu>
On 05/26/2011 11:24 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> So a simple object manager would simply use file label event
> attributes and would define simple rules like:
>
> "(label& tmp_t) || (label& user_home_t)"
Filtering by label vs. filtering by descriptor would solve qemu's
hotplug issue neatly.
> Note that tools/kvm/ would probably like to implement its own object
> manager model as well in addition to access method restrictions: by
> being virtual hardware it deals with many resources and object
> hierarchies that are simply not known to the host OS's LSM.
>
> Unlike Qemu tools/kvm/ has a design that is very fit for MAC
> concepts: it uses separate helper threads for separate resources
> (this could in many cases even be changed to be separate processes
> which only share access to the guest RAM image) - while Qemu is in
> most parts a state machine, so in tools/kvm/ we can realistically
> have a good object manager and keep an exploit in a networking
> interface driver from being able to access disk driver state.
You mean each thread will have a different security context? I don't
see the point. All threads share all of memory so it would be trivial
for one thread to exploit another and gain all of its privileges.
A multi process model works better but it has significant memory and
performance overhead.
(well the memory overhead is much smaller when using transparent huge
pages, but these only work for anonymous memory).
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
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2011-05-24 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Kees Cook
2011-05-25 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 16:40 ` Will Drewry
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2011-05-25 18:01 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 19:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 19:54 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-25 19:11 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-25 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-25 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-09 9:00 ` Sven Anders
2011-05-26 14:37 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 15:28 ` Colin Walters
2011-05-26 16:33 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:02 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:04 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 17:38 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-26 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:05 ` david
2011-05-26 19:09 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-26 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 19:49 ` david
2011-05-26 18:49 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] tracing: split out filter initialization and clean up Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] tracing: split out syscall_trace_enter construction Will Drewry
2011-06-01 7:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-01 17:15 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 15:18 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] seccomp_filters: new mode with configurable syscall filters Will Drewry
2011-06-02 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 18:14 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 19:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-02 20:28 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-02 20:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-02 21:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] seccomp_filter: add process state reporting Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] seccomp_filter: Document what seccomp_filter is and how it works Will Drewry
2011-06-01 21:23 ` Kees Cook
2011-06-01 23:03 ` Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] x86: add HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] arm: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] microblaze: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER and provide seccomp_execve Will Drewry
2011-06-01 5:37 ` Michal Simek
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] mips: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] s390: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] powerpc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] sparc: " Will Drewry
2011-06-01 3:35 ` David Miller
2011-06-01 3:10 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] sh: select HAVE_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2011-06-02 5:27 ` Paul Mundt
2011-05-26 17:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:08 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 17:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-26 18:34 ` david
2011-05-26 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 1:19 ` James Morris
2011-05-26 6:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 8:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 8:49 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-05-26 8:57 ` Pekka Enberg
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2011-05-26 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-26 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 11:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 10:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-26 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 0:12 ` James Morris
2011-05-29 16:51 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-05-29 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-29 18:23 ` Al Viro
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