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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@MIT.EDU>
To: Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	David Oliver <david@rgmadvisors.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shawn Bohrer <sbohrer@rgmadvisors.com>,
	Zachary Vonler <zvonler@rgmadvisors.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Change in functionality of futex() system call.
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:44:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DEE3944.5020005@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DED976C.90009@linux.intel.com>

On 06/06/2011 11:13 PM, Darren Hart wrote:
>
>
> On 06/06/2011 11:11 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Le lundi 06 juin 2011 à 10:53 -0700, Darren Hart a écrit :
>>>
>>
>>> If I understand the problem correctly, RO private mapping really doesn't
>>> make any sense and we should probably explicitly not support it, while
>>> special casing the RO shared mapping in support of David's scenario.
>>>
>>
>> We supported them in 2.6.18 kernels, apparently. This might sounds
>> stupid but who knows ?
>
>
> I guess this is actually the key point we need to agree on to provide a
> solution. This particular case "worked" in 2.6.18 kernels, but that
> doesn't necessarily mean it was supported, or even intentional.
>
> It sounds to me that we agree that we should support RO shared mappings.
> The question remains about whether we should introduce deliberate
> support of RO private mappings, and if so, if the forced COW approach is
> appropriate or not.
>

I disagree.

FUTEX_WAIT has side-effects.  Specifically, it eats one wakeup sent by 
FUTEX_WAKE.  So if something uses futexes on a file mapping, then a 
process with only read access could (if the semantics were changed) DoS 
the other processes by spawning a bunch of threads and FUTEX_WAITing 
from each of them.

If there were a FUTEX_WAIT_NOCONSUME that did not consume a wakeup and 
worked on RO mappings, I would drop my objection.

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-07 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-06 14:28 Change in functionality of futex() system call David Oliver
2011-06-06 15:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 15:56   ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-06 16:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:22       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 16:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:42           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 17:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 17:11               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 17:27                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-06 17:56                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-06 18:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 18:27                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-25  0:00                     ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 16:48                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-06 17:53             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-06 18:11               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07  3:13                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07  3:49                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 14:44                   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2011-06-07 15:56                     ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07 15:58                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 18:43                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:01                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07 19:04                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:06                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 19:10                         ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 19:19                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:33                             ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 19:53                               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 20:04                                 ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 20:12                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 22:26                             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-06-08 15:20                               ` David Oliver
2011-06-08 15:21                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-08 16:21                                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-09 11:37                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-09 12:05                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-09 17:58                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-10  3:30                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  3:26                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-07 18:30                 ` Joel Becker
2011-06-09 12:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-10 12:10       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10 17:29         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-13  2:11           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-13 15:50             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-15 18:50         ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-15 18:54           ` Darren Hart
2011-06-17 13:40             ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-22 19:19             ` [PATCH RFC] futex: Fix regression with read only mappings Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-22 20:14               ` Darren Hart
2011-06-23  2:51                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-23 15:26                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-23 19:49                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-24 15:59                       ` [PATCH v2] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-25  0:37                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-25 15:10                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-27 16:40                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 18:15                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-27 20:41                               ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 21:08                                 ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 21:39                                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 22:14                                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 23:17                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 22:22                                     ` [PATCH v3] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 10:54                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-28 14:52                                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 17:38                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 20:58                                             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 23:55                                             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-29 14:56                                               ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-29 15:17                                               ` [PATCH v4] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-29 18:41                                                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-29 23:38                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-30  4:19                                                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-30 14:02                                                     ` David C. Oliver
2011-06-30 15:41                                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-30 16:21                                                         ` [PATCH v5] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-12 15:27                                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-25 15:20                                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-25 19:28                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-07-26 19:04                                                           ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 10:50                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-28 14:19                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 14:23                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-23  3:58                 ` [PATCH RFC] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-23  3:23             ` Change in functionality of futex() system call KOSAKI Motohiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-09  0:44 George Spelvin
2011-06-09  3:02 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-09  3:38   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  3:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09  4:10       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  5:11         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09 12:12           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  4:43       ` George Spelvin
2011-06-09  5:25         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09  4:44       ` Kyle Moffett

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