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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/7] x86: convert ticketlocks to C and remove duplicate code
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:07:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E025983.4060106@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0257BC.9050509@goop.org>

On 06/22/2011 01:59 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 01:19 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 06/22/2011 12:21 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>> A friend just pointed out that gcc has a "__sync_fetch_and_add()"
>>> intrinsic, which compiles to xadd when used in this context.  What's the
>>> general feeling about using these kinds of gcc features?
>>>
>> In general they are good, IF:
>>
>> a) they cover all versions of gcc we care about (or we have a fallback),
> 
> What is the supported range for these days?
> 

For x86, we support 3.4, 4.0 and 4.1.2 and above (not sure if 4.0.x
actually works).  Other architectures have different rules.  At some
point we'll probably drop anything below 4.1.2, but we apparently can't yet.

>> and
>> b) they have the right semantics.
> 
> My main concern was making sure that its a strong enough barrier, but
> the documentation is pretty explicit about that.
> 
>> Using gcc intrinsics can generate better code than we can in inline
>> assembly.
> 
> It does seem to do a pretty good job; it generates a plain locked add if
> you never look at the returned value, for example.
> 
>> However, (b) is a killer since gcc doesn't have a way to generate our
>> lock prefix annotations, and so it isn't really useful here.
> 
> Yeah, I thought about that.  Its a bit unfortunate we're getting into
> spinlock code at all on a UP system, but we don't have a mechanism to
> stomp locking at a higher level.  (Ignoring all the insane stuff that
> happens when the system becomes UP transiently just because all the
> other CPUs have been unplugged for suspend, etc; we just shouldn't
> bother in that case.)

Yep...

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-22 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-16 21:40 [PATCH RFC 0/7] x86: convert ticketlocks to C and remove duplicate code Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/ticketlock: prevent memory accesses from reordered out of lock region Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-21 14:01 ` [PATCH RFC 0/7] x86: convert ticketlocks to C and remove duplicate code Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-21 17:54   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-22 19:21   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-22 20:19     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 20:59       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-22 21:07         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2011-06-22 21:35           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-22 23:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-21 14:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-06-24  1:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:55     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Convert " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 3/8] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24 21:52     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-24 22:41       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 18:32         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-22 19:28           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:56       ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Use asm volatile for __ticket_unlock_release() tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-22 19:56     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 4/8] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:57     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Make " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 5/8] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:57     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Make " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 6/8] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:57     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Make " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 7/8] x86: add xadd helper macro Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:58     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86: Add " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24  1:19   ` [PATCH 8/8] x86/ticketlock: use xadd helper Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:58     ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Use " tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 19:55   ` [tip:x86/spinlocks] x86, ticketlock: Clean up types and accessors tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-24 21:50 ` [PATCH RFC 0/7] x86: convert ticketlocks to C and remove duplicate code H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-24 22:42   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-25  3:15     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-15 17:24       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-15 23:06         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-16  0:14           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-06-25 10:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-29 20:44 ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-21 23:33   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-07-22 16:25     ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-07 23:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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