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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: P@draigBrady.com
Cc: andrea@betterlinux.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	minchan.kim@gmail.com, riel@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, jamesjer@betterlinux.com,
	marcus@bluehost.com, matt@bluehost.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fadvise: move active pages to inactive list with POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:44:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E085113.7060200@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E084AA7.2030701@draigBrady.com>

(2011/06/27 18:17), Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 27/06/11 06:38, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>>> Hmm, What if you do want to evict it from the cache for testing purposes?
>>> Perhaps this functionality should be associated with POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE?
>>> dd has been recently modified to support invalidating the cache for a file,
>>> and it uses POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED for that.
>>> http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f311553
>>
>> This change don't break dd. dd don't have a special privilege of file cache
>> dropping if it's also used by other processes.
>>
>> if you want to drop a cache forcely (maybe for testing), you need to use
>> /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. It's ok to ignore other processes activity because
>> it's privilege operation.
> 
> Well the function and privileges are separate things.
> I think we've agreed that the new functionality is
> best associated with POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE,
> and the existing functionality with POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED.
> 
> BTW, I don't think privileges are currently enforced
> as I got root to cache a file here with:
>   # (time md5sum; sleep 100) < big.file
> And a normal user was able to uncache with:
>   $ dd iflag=nocache if=big.file count=0
> Anyway as said, this is a separate "issue".

I'm failed to see your point. Why does dd need to ignore other
process activity? If no other process, this patch doesn't change
any behavior. Isn't it?



      reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-22 21:51 [PATCH RFC] fadvise: move active pages to inactive list with POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED Andrea Righi
2011-06-22 23:04 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-23  3:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-23  6:18   ` Andrea Righi
2011-06-23 11:14 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-23 13:57   ` Andrea Righi
2011-06-23 14:14     ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-23 15:32       ` Andrea Righi
2011-06-27  5:38   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-27  9:17     ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-27  9:44       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]

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