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From: Shan Hai <haishan.bai@gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cmetcalf@tilera.com, dhowells@redhat.com, paulus@samba.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, walken@google.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] Fixup write permission of TLB on powerpc e500 core
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:03:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E21A841.9010005@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1310775649.25044.5.camel@pasglop>

On 07/15/2011 08:20 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 11:32 -0400, Shan Hai wrote:
>> I agree with you, the problem could be triggered by accessing
>> any user space page which has kernel read only permission
>> in the page fault disabled context, the problem also affects
>> architectures which depend on SW dirty/young tracking as
>> stated by Benjamin in this thread.
>>
>> In the e500 case, the commit 6cfd8990e27d3a491c1c605d6cbc18a46ae51fef
>> removed the write permission fixup from TLB miss handlers and left it to
>> generic code, so it might be right time to fixup the write permission here
>> in the generic code.
> But we can't. The must not modify the PTE from an interrupt context and
> the "atomic" variants of user accesses can be called in such contexts.
>
> I think the problem is that we try to actually do things other than just
> "peek" at user memory (for backtraces etc...) but actually useful things
> in page fault disabled contexts. That's bad and various archs mm were
> designed with the assumption that this never happens.
>

Yes I understood, the *here* above means 'generic code' like futex code,
I am sorry for my ambiguous description.

> If the futex case is seldom here, we could probably find a way to work
> around in that specific case.
>

That's what my patch wants to do.

> However, I -still- don't understand why gup didn't fixup the write
> permission. gup doesn't set dirty ?
>

Yep, gup doesn't set dirty, because when the page fault
occurs on the kernel accessing a user page which is
read only to the kernel the following conditions hold,
- the page is present, because its a shared page
- the page is writable, because demand paging
     sets up the pte for the current  process to so

The follow_page() called in the __get_user_page()
returns non NULL to its caller on the above mentioned
present and writable page, so the gup(.write=1) has no
chance to set pte dirty by calling handle_mm_fault

Thanks
Shan Hai
s
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-16 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-15  8:07 [PATCH 0/1] Fixup write permission of TLB on powerpc e500 core Shan Hai
2011-07-15  8:07 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Shan Hai
2011-07-15 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 15:18     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15 15:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-16 15:36         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16 14:50     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16 23:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17  9:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-17 14:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 23:14             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  3:53               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  4:02                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  4:01               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  6:48                 ` Shan Hai
2011-07-18  7:01                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  7:26                     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-18  7:36                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-18  7:50                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  3:30                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  4:20                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  4:29                           ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW tracking of dirty & young Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  4:55                             ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  5:17                             ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  5:24                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  5:38                                 ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  7:46                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  8:24                                     ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19  8:26                                       ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW trackingof " David Laight
2011-07-19  8:45                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-19  8:45                                         ` Shan Hai
2011-07-19 11:10                             ` [RFC/PATCH] mm/futex: Fix futex writes on archs with SW tracking of " Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-20 14:39                             ` Darren Hart
2011-07-21 22:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-21 22:52                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-21 22:57                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-21 22:59                                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-22  1:40                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-22  1:54                                   ` Shan Hai
2011-07-27  6:50                             ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-27  7:58                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-27  8:59                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-27 10:09                                   ` David Howells
2011-07-27 10:17                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-27 10:20                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-28  0:12                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-28 10:55                                       ` David Howells
2011-08-08  2:31                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-17 11:02         ` [PATCH 1/1] Fixup write permission of TLB on powerpc e500 core Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-17 13:33           ` Shan Hai
2011-07-17 14:48             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 15:40               ` Shan Hai
2011-07-17 22:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-17 14:34           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  8:20 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15  8:38   ` MailingLists
2011-07-15  8:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15  9:08       ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15  9:12         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 10:06           ` Shan Hai
2011-07-15 10:32             ` David Laight
2011-07-15 10:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-15 15:32               ` Shan Hai
2011-07-16  0:20                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-16 15:03                   ` Shan Hai [this message]
2011-07-15 23:47               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:07     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-15  9:05   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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