From: Martyn Welch <martyn.welch@ge.com>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: Manohar Vanga <manohar.vanga@cern.ch>,
gregkh@suse.de, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] staging: vme: add functions for bridge module refcounting
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:45:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3B9FA2.3060303@ge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110804163451.GA18422@flamenco.cs.columbia.edu>
On 04/08/11 17:34, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:23:48 +0100, Martyn Welch wrote:
>> On 03/08/11 16:23, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 16:06:30 +0200, Manohar Vanga wrote:
>>>>> Can we not do this inside vme_master_request, vme_slave_request, etc?
>>>>> I.e. Add reference count when resources are given out.
>>>>> This would then be done in the vme_*_free routines.
>>>>
>>>> I agree this would be much better. I will change this and resend :)
>>>
>>> To me it seems better to keep this as is, to be
>>> used by .probe and .release methods, in the same way
>>> usb_get_dev() and usb_put_dev() are used by usb drivers.
>>
>> The description of the functions in usb.c suggests, to me at least, that these
>> functions are the equivalent to the vme_*_request functions in the vme code.
>> Being called when a function binds to an interface and when it is finished
>> with it.
>
> Which functions? usb_get_dev and usb_put_dev? These _only_
> in/de-crement the refcounts. They're called by .probe and
> .release methods of usb drivers. The "resources" or "services"
> the callers acquire from the usb bridge is orthogonal.
>
> The point is to separate incrementing the refcounts from other
> functionality. We have currently five "request" functions:
> vme_{master,slave,dma,irq,lm}_request. The average driver
> would call two or three of these for each device. This would
> result in a fairly large refcount for the bridge, that would
> tell us nothing about how many users (devices) are hanging in
> there--"yeah, we have lots" is not good enough.
>
Actually, it would give you a good indication of how many of the resources
provided by each VME bridge chip were used. I don't see the refcount
accurately reflecting the number of users as being important, more as a means
of tracking which bridges have resources that are being used (and therefore
can't be removed).
> So no, usb_get_dev and usb_put_dev are not equivalent to our
> vme_*_request functions. The get/put functions only operate
> on the refcounts, to mark the dependency of a struct device
> on another device (the bridge) so that the parent cannot
> be removed. This is the way things are done in other much
> more mature subsystems, I don't see why we should do it
> differently.
>
The USB bus and VME bus are very different entities.
Martyn
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-01 10:20 [PATCH 0/8] VME Driver Fixes Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] staging: vme_user: change kmalloc+memset to kzalloc Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:52 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10 7:44 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] staging: vme: allow explicit assignment of bus numbers Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 11:10 ` Dan Carpenter
2011-08-01 12:12 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 13:06 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 14:31 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 15:50 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-02 11:54 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-02 14:57 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03 8:54 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-04 9:16 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] staging: vme: make [alloc|free]_consistent bridge specific Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 11:10 ` Dan Carpenter
2011-08-01 12:24 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 13:41 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 13:40 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:00 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:05 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] staging: vme: keep track of registered buses Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] staging: vme: add functions for bridge module refcounting Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03 14:04 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03 14:06 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03 15:23 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-04 7:23 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-04 16:34 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-05 7:45 ` Martyn Welch [this message]
2011-08-05 9:04 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-05 9:24 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-05 17:47 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08 8:01 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-08 9:14 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08 9:42 ` Martyn Welch
[not found] ` <4E3FABDA.8080204@ge.com>
[not found] ` <20110808101140.GA21300@flamenco.cs.columbia.edu>
2011-08-08 11:06 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-08 17:22 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08 18:04 ` Greg KH
2011-08-09 9:00 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 19:19 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10 7:39 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10 9:15 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10 9:50 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10 18:35 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-09 13:24 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 14:26 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 14:35 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:05 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 18:49 ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10 6:52 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] staging: vme: rename *_slot_get to *_get_slot Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 12:29 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 12:31 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:18 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 15:25 ` Greg KH
2011-08-09 15:32 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] staging: vme: add struct vme_dev for VME devices Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:19 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] staging: vme: make match() driver specific to improve non-VME64x support Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03 9:16 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03 12:18 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:29 ` [PATCH 0/8] VME Driver Fixes Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 14:32 ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-23 22:07 ` Greg KH
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