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From: Martyn Welch <martyn.welch@ge.com>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] staging: vme: add functions for bridge module refcounting
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:42:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3FAF8F.9060106@ge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110808091432.GA19570@flamenco.cs.columbia.edu>

On 08/08/11 10:14, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 09:01:46 +0100, Martyn Welch wrote:
>> On 05/08/11 18:47, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>> A driver leaking a resource will then leave a bogus refcount
>>> Refcounting must be kept simple & stupid; doing it behind the
>>> backs of the drivers we're trying to protect is a mistake.
>>
>> I just simply disagree. Forcing each driver to specifically maintain the
>> refcount is just stupid when an alternative is possible.
> 
> Martyn, no one in the kernel is doing what you propose, for
> good reason. Look at USB, PCI, RapidIO.  They all provide get
> and put functions to be called from probe and release.
> 

Really, which functions are these for PCI?

> Doing otherwise is a bug. If a driver needs a resource *not
> necessarily at .probe time*, it increments the refcount
> then (in .probe) to make sure that the parent driver won't
> be removed. IOW if you increase the refcount in the bridge
> driver only when a resource is requested you're doomed,
> because when the non-probe request arrives, the bridge driver
> may have been removed already.. And the kernel gently reminds
> you of this fact in the form of an oops.
> 

The probe is going to need to request the resources to access the hardware it
is designed to control. Hence it will be incrementing the refcount exactly
when it needs to.

Martyn

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-08  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-01 10:20 [PATCH 0/8] VME Driver Fixes Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] staging: vme_user: change kmalloc+memset to kzalloc Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:52   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10  7:44     ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] staging: vme: allow explicit assignment of bus numbers Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 11:10   ` Dan Carpenter
2011-08-01 12:12     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 13:06   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 14:31     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 15:50       ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-02 11:54         ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-02 14:57           ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03  8:54             ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-04  9:16               ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] staging: vme: make [alloc|free]_consistent bridge specific Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 11:10   ` Dan Carpenter
2011-08-01 12:24     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 13:41   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 13:40     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:00     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:05       ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] staging: vme: keep track of registered buses Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] staging: vme: add functions for bridge module refcounting Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03 14:04   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03 14:06     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03 15:23       ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-04  7:23         ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-04 16:34           ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-05  7:45             ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-05  9:04               ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-05  9:24                 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-05 17:47                   ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08  8:01                     ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-08  9:14                       ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08  9:42                         ` Martyn Welch [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <4E3FABDA.8080204@ge.com>
     [not found]                           ` <20110808101140.GA21300@flamenco.cs.columbia.edu>
2011-08-08 11:06                             ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-08 17:22                               ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-08 18:04                                 ` Greg KH
2011-08-09  9:00                                 ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 19:19                                   ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10  7:39                                     ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10  9:15                                       ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10  9:50                                         ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-10 18:35                                           ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-09 13:24                   ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 14:26                     ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 14:35                       ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:05                         ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 18:49                       ` Emilio G. Cota
2011-08-10  6:52                         ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] staging: vme: rename *_slot_get to *_get_slot Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 12:29   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 12:31     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:18       ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-09 15:25         ` Greg KH
2011-08-09 15:32         ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] staging: vme: add struct vme_dev for VME devices Manohar Vanga
2011-08-09 15:19   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 10:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] staging: vme: make match() driver specific to improve non-VME64x support Manohar Vanga
2011-08-03  9:16   ` Martyn Welch
2011-08-03 12:18     ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-01 14:29 ` [PATCH 0/8] VME Driver Fixes Martyn Welch
2011-08-01 14:32   ` Manohar Vanga
2011-08-23 22:07 ` Greg KH

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