From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752470Ab1HVFEM (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:04:12 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:53440 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751077Ab1HVFEH (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4E51E325.2050502@zytor.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:03:33 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110707 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Viro CC: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Lutomirski , mingo@redhat.com, Richard Weinberger , user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) References: <20110821063443.GH2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20110821084230.GI2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20110821144352.GJ2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20110821164124.GL2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20110822011645.GM2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20110822040759.GQ2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <4E51D70A.1060001@zytor.com> <20110822042605.GR2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110822042605.GR2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 08/21/2011 09:26 PM, Al Viro wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 09:11:54PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >>> lack of point - the *only* CPU where it would matter would be K6-2, IIRC, >>> and (again, IIRC) it had some differences in SYSCALL semantics compared to >>> K7 (which supports SYSENTER as well). Bugger if I remember what those >>> differences might've been... Some flag not cleared? >> >> The most likely reason for a binary to execute a stray SYSCALL is >> because they read it out of the vdso. Totally daft, but we certainly >> see a lot of stupid things as evidenced by the JIT thread earlier this >> month. > > Um... What, blindly, no matter what surrounds it in there? What will > happen to the same eager JIT when it steps on SYSENTER? The JIT will have had to manage SYSENTER already. It's not a change, whereas SYSCALL would be. We could just try it, and see if anything breaks, of course. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.