From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:58:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E53DC2A.3020004@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110823165320.GG2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Am 23.08.2011 18:53, schrieb Al Viro:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:29:29AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>> Oh yes.
>>
>> System call performance is *important*. And x86 is *important*.
>>
>> UML? In comparison, not that important.
>>
>> So quite frankly, if this is purely an UML issue (and unless we're
>> missing something else, that's what it looks like, despite all the
>> confusion we've had so far), then if we have a choice between "remove
>> syscall instruction" and "remove UML", then ...
>
> Agreed. Note, BTW, that UML has perfectly usable workaround for 99% of
> that - don't tell the binaries it has *any* vdso in such cases. And
> "remove UML" turns into "remove support under UML for 32bit binaries
> that go out of their way to do SYSCALL directly, which wouldn't work
> on native 32bit", which is really a no-brainer.
What about this hack/solution?
While booting UML can check whether the host's vDSO contains
a SYSCALL instruction.
If so, UML will not make the host's vDSO available to it's
processes...
Thanks,
//richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-23 16:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 18:58 Subject: [PATCH 00/91] pending uml patches Al Viro
2011-08-18 19:12 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-18 19:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-19 4:31 ` Al Viro
2011-08-19 8:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 1:18 ` [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386 Al Viro
2011-08-20 15:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 20:14 ` Al Viro
2011-08-20 20:55 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:38 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:40 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 6:34 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 8:42 ` SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-21 11:24 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 13:37 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 14:51 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 14:43 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 16:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 0:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 1:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:25 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86-32, vdso: On system call restart after SYSENTER, use int $0x80 tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:40 ` tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:16 ` SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 2:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 2:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 9:53 ` [uml-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2011-08-22 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-22 15:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 20:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:52 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:03 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 1:01 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 2:59 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 2:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 6:15 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 14:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:30 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 18:04 ` Al Viro
2011-08-24 12:44 ` [PATCH] x86, asm: Document some of the syscall asm glue Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:22 ` [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:53 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:58 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2011-08-23 17:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-25 0:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 20:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-24 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 16:48 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:17 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <CAObL_7FG8eFTZ4djKH0T8tbRf2h6+iOm=OXr8194nvzc+w+a9A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-08-23 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 4:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:26 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 5:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 5:10 ` Andrew Lutomirski
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