From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Daniel Ehrenberg <dehrenberg@google.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Approaches to making io_submit not block
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:02:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5E5B10.6000503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110831154558.GA12259@redhat.com>
On 08/31/2011 06:45 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> KVM also have similar needs. KVM has x86 emulator in kernel which is,
> in fact, a state machines that sometimes need an input from userspace
> to proceed. Currently, when userspace input is needed, KVM goes back
> to userspace to retrieve the input and than retries the emulation. Some
> instructions may require several such iterations. This is somewhat similar
> to aio except that in KVM case emulation waits for userspace instead of
> disk/network HW. The resulting code is complex and error prone. It would
> be nice to not have to unwind the stack from the middle of the emulator
> just to be able to exit to userspace to retrieve the value. One idea that
> came up was to execute emulator on separate kernel stack (withing same
> task). When emulator needs a value from userspace it sleeps while main
> stack goes to userspace to get the value. When the value is available
> main stack wakes up emulator stack and emulation continues from the
> place it was stopped. Cooperative multithreading inside the kernel
> if you want. Bellow is the patch I prototyped to implement that on
> x86_64. I made KVM x86 emulator to use it too. I think AIO can use the
> same technique. io_submit will execute IO on alternative stack. If it
> blocks main thread will continue to run. When IO is completed IO stack
> will resume (alternative stack has priority over main stack).
>
Note that kvm has a significant interest in linux-aio as well - we see a
significant performance win when we can use it. From my point of view
extending linux-aio to be truly asynchronous in all cases is the bigger
win here, the emulator issue is a nice code cleanup but we could live
without it.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-31 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-29 17:33 Approaches to making io_submit not block Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-30 5:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-30 21:51 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-31 5:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-31 17:08 ` Andi Kleen
2011-08-31 21:00 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-31 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-01 4:18 ` Dave Chinner
2011-09-01 4:39 ` Andi Kleen
2011-09-01 6:54 ` Dave Chinner
2011-09-02 13:08 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-09-02 13:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-01 3:39 ` Dave Chinner
2011-09-01 4:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-30 7:02 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <CAAK6Zt0Sh1GdEOb-tNf2FGXJs=e1Jbcqew13R_GdTqrv6vW97w@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <x49k49uk2ox.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>
[not found] ` <4E5D5817.6040704@kernel.dk>
2011-08-30 22:19 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-30 22:32 ` Jens Axboe
2011-08-30 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-30 22:45 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-30 22:54 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-30 23:03 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-08-30 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2011-08-31 11:04 ` Ulrich Drepper
2011-08-31 16:59 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-09-01 11:14 ` Ulrich Drepper
2011-09-01 15:58 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-09-01 16:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-01 16:15 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-09-01 16:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-01 16:31 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-09-01 16:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-01 16:34 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-09-01 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-01 16:57 ` Jeremy Allison
2011-08-31 5:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-31 6:04 ` guy keren
2011-08-31 23:16 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-31 23:48 ` guy keren
2011-08-31 23:59 ` Daniel Ehrenberg
2011-08-31 15:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-08-31 16:02 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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