From: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: JJ Ding <jj_ding@emc.com.tw>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Aaron Huang <aaron_huang@emc.com.tw>,
Tom Lin <tom_lin@emc.com.tw>, Eric Piel <E.A.B.Piel@tudelft.nl>,
Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
Alessandro Rubini <rubini@cvml.unipv.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] Input: elantech - use firmware provided x, y ranges
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:05:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E6660D7.9040800@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110906173649.GA7419@core.coreip.homeip.net>
On 09/06/2011 10:36 AM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:03:05AM -0700, Chase Douglas wrote:
>> On 09/04/2011 08:22 PM, JJ Ding wrote:
>>> Hi Chase,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:26:32 -0700, Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com> wrote:
>>>> On 08/18/2011 12:47 AM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:57:05AM +0800, JJ Ding wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + i = (etd->fw_version > 0x020800 &&
>>>>>> + etd->fw_version < 0x020900) ? 1 : 2;
>>>>>> + *x_max = (etd->capabilities[1] - i) * 64;
>>>>>> + *y_max = (etd->capabilities[2] - i) * 64;
>>>>>> + *y_2ft_max = (*y_max - i) * 64 / 4;
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, we should have the same range for ST and MT data and scale MT data
>>>>> if it has lower resolution to match ST.
>>>>
>>>> I saw this go by a while back and it made sense to me at the time.
>>>> However, I've had some thoughts that give me pause.
>>>>
>>>> Seth Forshee has been working on getting a semi-mt driver for ALPS
>>>> devices. The ALPS devices have an interesting mechanism for providing
>>>> multitouch data, but it boils down to having a resolution of only 15
>>>> values in the X axis and 11 in the Y axis (it looks possible to
>>>> extrapolate and get double the resolution, but my point will remain).
>>>>
>>>> Let's take the X synaptics module as an example of the repercussions of
>>>> in-kernel axis scaling. The X synaptics module translates two touch
>>>> drags into scroll events. Synaptics will want to use the highest
>>>> resolution axis for generating scroll events. If both the MT and ST axes
>>>> have the same resolution, it might pick the MT axes for scrolling. On
>>>> ALPS devices with in-kernel axis scaling that would be a bad choice.
>>> I don't know about the ALPS devices, but since we already report
>>> ABS_MT_POSITION_{X,Y} with elantech v2, we have to do the scaling in
>>> kernel anyway to adhere to multitouch protocol. So I would say it is
>>> still more appropriate to have the same resolution for ST and MT with
>>> respect to elantech v2. Maybe ALPS should be considered an exception to this?
>>
>> The multitouch protocol doesn't require scaling of axes to match, at
>> least not according to the protocol documentation.
>>
>> I see that the current code scales the coordinates for v2, but it's only
>> half-resolution. That's not a huge deal since the resolution of modern
>> touchpads is very high. We could leave it scaled to not break abi, if
>> that was a concern. However, with new devices it makes sense to state
>> the ranges in terms of what the device actually supports. Otherwise,
>> we're just masking out useful data that userspace could be using.
>>
>
> I disagree. I believe that ST and MT ranges reported for the same
> working surface should match, especially since many devices derive ST
> data from MT.
>
> As far as devices that have ranges 0-15 in MT mode - I am not sure how
> useful such MT steam anyway and if we are better of just ignore them
> (maybe just use the data to report number of fingers on the surface but
> otherwise use standard ST protocol).
The MT data could still be useful for pinch to zoom or potentially
rotate (though most low res devices probably are only semi-mt). I don't
want to forsake pinch to zoom just because we can't pass on the
resolution of MT data properly.
-- Chase
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-06 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 1:57 [PATCH 0/6] elantech: add support for newer generation hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] Input: elantech - correct x, y value range for v2 hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:20 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] Input: elantech - use firmware provided x, y ranges JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:44 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 7:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-19 9:47 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:19 ` Éric Piel
2011-09-01 18:26 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-05 3:22 ` JJ Ding
2011-09-06 17:03 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-06 17:36 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-09-06 18:05 ` Chase Douglas [this message]
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-09-06 19:29 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-07 2:33 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-09-06 18:47 ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-09-06 18:58 ` Chase Douglas
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] Input: elantech - packet checking for v2 hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:49 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 6:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 7:31 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 7:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 8:06 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:22 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] Input: elantech - work around EC buffer JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:50 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:07 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:48 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 6:54 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 6:54 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] Input: elantech - clean up elantech_init JJ Ding
2011-08-18 3:04 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:08 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:35 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 5:38 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 7:44 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 6:34 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-19 12:29 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] Input: elantech - add v3 hardware support JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:57 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:04 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 3:09 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:22 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:39 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 3:01 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:26 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 5:31 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:34 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 5:44 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:01 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 6:06 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 7:49 ` Tom _Lin
2011-08-18 3:30 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 3:47 ` Li Zefan
2011-08-18 4:15 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:02 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 6:08 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 13:58 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 0:15 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-19 2:23 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 17:39 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 8:29 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:13 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 12:41 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-19 12:50 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 13:39 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-22 0:55 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 13:03 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-22 6:05 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-22 7:20 ` Tom _Lin
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