From: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
To: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
JJ Ding <jj_ding@emc.com.tw>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Aaron Huang <aaron_huang@emc.com.tw>,
Tom Lin <tom_lin@emc.com.tw>, Eric Piel <E.A.B.Piel@tudelft.nl>,
Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
Alessandro Rubini <rubini@cvml.unipv.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] Input: elantech - use firmware provided x, y ranges
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:58:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E666D56.1020009@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110906184735.GA3433@polaris.bitmath.org>
On 09/06/2011 11:47 AM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>>>> I see that the current code scales the coordinates for v2, but it's only
>>>> half-resolution. That's not a huge deal since the resolution of modern
>>>> touchpads is very high. We could leave it scaled to not break abi, if
>>>> that was a concern. However, with new devices it makes sense to state
>>>> the ranges in terms of what the device actually supports. Otherwise,
>>>> we're just masking out useful data that userspace could be using.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree. I believe that ST and MT ranges reported for the same
>>> working surface should match, especially since many devices derive ST
>>> data from MT.
>>>
>>> As far as devices that have ranges 0-15 in MT mode - I am not sure how
>>> useful such MT steam anyway and if we are better of just ignore them
>>> (maybe just use the data to report number of fingers on the surface but
>>> otherwise use standard ST protocol).
>>
>> The MT data could still be useful for pinch to zoom or potentially
>> rotate (though most low res devices probably are only semi-mt). I don't
>> want to forsake pinch to zoom just because we can't pass on the
>> resolution of MT data properly.
>
> We are not forsaking anything. At best, the detail missed out by using
> the same scaling for ST and MT is the ability to distinguish the axis
> with the best or poorest resolution. However, some devices report
> higher MT than ST resolution, not because it is better (it is indeed
> worse), but simply to not lose bits in the filtering process. In other
> words: the logic is not without corner cases, and it only makes a
> difference to the transitional devices that are not fully MT
> capable. If this really was a concern, userspace could use the ST
> coordinates for some transformations instead.
So what do we want userspace to do? In the absence of supplying this
information we need to provide guidelines. We could say:
* Always use ST coords + finger count for drag gestures (i.e. scrolling)
* Use MT coords for pinch and rotate
If this is acceptable, we should add it to the documentation. Thoughts?
-- Chase
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-06 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 1:57 [PATCH 0/6] elantech: add support for newer generation hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] Input: elantech - correct x, y value range for v2 hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:20 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] Input: elantech - use firmware provided x, y ranges JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:44 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 7:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-19 9:47 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:19 ` Éric Piel
2011-09-01 18:26 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-05 3:22 ` JJ Ding
2011-09-06 17:03 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-06 17:36 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-09-06 18:05 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-09-06 19:29 ` Chase Douglas
2011-09-07 2:33 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-09-06 18:47 ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-09-06 18:58 ` Chase Douglas [this message]
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] Input: elantech - packet checking for v2 hardware JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:49 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 6:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 7:31 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 7:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 8:06 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:22 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] Input: elantech - work around EC buffer JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:50 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:07 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:48 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 6:54 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 6:54 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] Input: elantech - clean up elantech_init JJ Ding
2011-08-18 3:04 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:08 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:35 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 5:38 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 7:44 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 6:34 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-19 12:29 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-18 1:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] Input: elantech - add v3 hardware support JJ Ding
2011-08-18 2:57 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:04 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 3:09 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 3:22 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:39 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 3:01 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:26 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 5:31 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 5:34 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 5:44 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:01 ` Daniel Kurtz
2011-08-18 6:06 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 7:49 ` Tom _Lin
2011-08-18 3:30 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 3:47 ` Li Zefan
2011-08-18 4:15 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 6:02 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-08-18 6:08 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-18 13:58 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-18 14:25 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 0:15 ` Wanlong Gao
2011-08-19 2:23 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-18 17:39 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 8:29 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 12:13 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 12:41 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-19 12:50 ` Seth Forshee
2011-08-19 13:39 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-22 0:55 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-19 13:03 ` Éric Piel
2011-08-22 6:05 ` JJ Ding
2011-08-22 7:20 ` Tom _Lin
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