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From: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/18] CFS Bandwidth Control v7.2
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:06:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E730397.5030902@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1315915848.1151.26.camel@dhcp-10-30-22-158.sw.ru>

Hi Vladimir,

I had a fairly good coversation with Pavel at LPC regarding these 
questions, it's probably worth syncing up with him and then following up 
if you still have questions.


On 09/13/11 05:10, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> Hello, Paul
>
> I have a question about CFS bandwidth control.
>
> Let's consider a cgroup with several (>1) tasks running on a two CPU
> host. Let the limit of the cgroup be 50% (e.g. period=1s, quota=0.5s).
> How will tasks of the cgroup be distributed between the two CPUs? Will
> they all run on one of the CPUs, or will one half of them run on one CPU
> and others run on the other?
>

Parallelism is unconstrained until the bandwidth limit is reached, at 
which point we CONFIG_NR_CPUS=0

> Although in both cases the tasks will consume not more than one half of
> overall CPU time, the first case (all tasks of the cgroup run on the
> same CPU) is obviously better if the tasks are likely to communicate
> with each other (e.g. through pipe) which is often the case when cgroups
> are used for container virtualization.
>

This case is handled already by the affine wake-up path.

> In other words, I'd like to know if your code (or the scheduler code)
> tries to gather all tasks of the same cgroup on such a subset of all
> CPUs so that the tasks can't execute less CPUs without losing quota
> during each period. And if not, are you going to address the issue?
>

Parallelism != Bandwidth; no plans at this time.

Thanks!

- Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-16  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-21 16:43 [patch 00/18] CFS Bandwidth Control v7.2 Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 01/18] sched: (fixlet) dont update shares twice on on_rq parent Paul Turner
2011-07-22 11:06   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 02/18] sched: hierarchical task accounting for SCHED_OTHER Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:15   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Implement " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 03/18] sched: introduce primitives to account for CFS bandwidth tracking Paul Turner
2011-07-22 11:14   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-08-14 16:17   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Introduce " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 04/18] sched: validate CFS quota hierarchies Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:19   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Validate " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 05/18] sched: accumulate per-cfs_rq cpu usage and charge against bandwidth Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:21   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Accumulate " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 06/18] sched: add a timer to handle CFS bandwidth refresh Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:23   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 07/18] sched: expire invalid runtime Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:24   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Expire " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 08/18] sched: add support for throttling group entities Paul Turner
2011-08-08 15:46   ` Lin Ming
2011-08-08 16:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-08 16:16       ` Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:26   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 09/18] sched: add support for unthrottling " Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:27   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 10/18] sched: allow for positional tg_tree walks Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:29   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Allow " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 11/18] sched: prevent interactions with throttled entities Paul Turner
2011-07-22 11:26   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-07-22 11:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 11:41   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-07-22 11:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 18:16       ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-08-14 16:30   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Prevent " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 12/18] sched: prevent buddy " Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:32   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Prevent " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 13/18] sched: migrate throttled tasks on HOTPLUG Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:34   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Migrate " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 14/18] sched: throttle entities exceeding their allowed bandwidth Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:35   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Throttle " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 15/18] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:37   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add " tip-bot for Nikhil Rao
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 16/18] sched: return unused runtime on group dequeue Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:39   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Return " tip-bot for Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [RFT][patch 17/18] sched: use jump labels to reduce overhead when bandwidth control is inactive Paul Turner
2011-07-21 16:43 ` [patch 18/18] sched: add documentation for bandwidth control Paul Turner
2011-08-14 16:41   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Add " tip-bot for Bharata B Rao
2011-07-21 23:01 ` [patch 00/18] CFS Bandwidth Control v7.2 Paul Turner
2011-07-25 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-25 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-25 16:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-25 16:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-25 16:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-07-25 17:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-25 17:11             ` Dhaval Giani
2011-07-25 17:35               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-28  2:59     ` Paul Turner
2011-09-13 12:10 ` Vladimir Davydov
2011-09-13 14:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-16  8:06   ` Paul Turner [this message]
2011-09-19  8:22     ` Vladimir Davydov
2011-09-19  8:33       ` Peter Zijlstra

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