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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/3] futex: Reduce hash bucket lock contention
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:57:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E749937.5090803@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1316176490.10174.22.camel@twins>

On 09/16/2011 02:34 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So while initially I thought the sem patch was busted, it turns out this
> one is.
>
> Thomas managed to spot the race:
>
>    Task-0			Task-1
>
> futex_wait()
>    queue_me()
>
> 				futex_wake()
> 				  wake_list_add();
> 				  __unqueue_futex();
> 				    plist_del();
>    if (!plist_node_empty())
>    __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNNIG);
>
> 				  wake_up_list();
> 				    /* waking an already running task-0 */
>
>
> I guess the biggest question is, do we care? Ideally everything should
> be able to deal with spurious wakeups, although we generally try to
> avoid them.
>
>
The sem patch also causes such wakeups:

  Task-0                Task-1
  semtimedop()
   schedule_timeout()

                             semtimedop()
                             wake_list_add();
                             q->status = 0;
<Timeout>
   schedule_timeout() returns
   if (q->status==0)
     return;
  semtimedop() returns

  random user space/kernel space code

                             spin_unlock();
                             wake_up_list();

It's a rare event, but that does happen.
Which means:
How do we verify that everything is able to deal with spurious wakeups?

--
     Manfred

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-17 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-14 13:30 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] delayed wakeup list Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] sched: Provide " Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 14:08   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-09-14 14:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 15:35   ` Darren Hart
2011-09-14 15:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 15:49       ` Darren Hart
2011-09-16  7:59   ` Paul Turner
2011-09-16  7:59   ` Paul Turner
2011-09-16  8:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-02 14:01   ` Manfred Spraul
2011-10-03 10:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] futex: Reduce hash bucket lock contention Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 15:46   ` Darren Hart
2011-09-14 15:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 16:00       ` Darren Hart
2011-09-14 20:49       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-16 12:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-17 12:57     ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2011-09-19  7:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19  8:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] ipc/sem: Rework wakeup scheme Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-15 17:29   ` Manfred Spraul
2011-09-15 19:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-15 19:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-15 19:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-17 12:36       ` Manfred Spraul
2011-09-16 12:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-17 12:32       ` Manfred Spraul
2011-09-16 12:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] delayed wakeup list Eric Dumazet
2011-09-14 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra

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