From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC/GIT PULL] Linux KVM tool for v3.2
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:50:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EBB4A21.20707@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1111041037290.16959@tux.localdomain>
On 11/04/2011 03:38 AM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Linus,
>
> Please consider pulling the latest KVM tool tree from:
>
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/penberg/linux.git kvmtool/for-linus
>
[snip]
> tools/kvm/virtio/net.c | 423 ++++++++
> tools/kvm/virtio/pci.c | 319 ++++++
> tools/kvm/virtio/rng.c | 185 ++++
> 186 files changed, 19071 insertions(+), 179 deletions(-)
So let's assume for a moment that a tool like this should live in the kernel.
What's disturbing about a PULL request like this is the lack of reviewability of
it and the lack of any real review from people that understand what's going on
in this code base.
There are no Acked-by's by people that really understand what the code is doing
or that have domain expertise in filesystems and networking.
There are major functionality short comings in this code base, data corruptors,
and CVEs. I'm not saying that the kvm-tool developers are bad developers, but
the code is not at the appropriate quality level for the kernel. It just looks
pretty on the surface to people that are used to the kernel coding style.
To highlight a few of the issues:
1) The RTC emulation is limited to emulating CMOS and only the few fields used
to store the date and time. If code is added to arch/x86 that tries to make use
of a CMOS field for something useful, kvm-tool is going to fall over.
None of the register A/B/C logic is implemented and none of the timer logic is
implemented. I imagine this requires kernel command line hackery to keep the
kernel from throwing up.
If a kernel change that works on bare metal but breaks kvm-tool because kvm-tool
is incomplete is committed, is that a regression that requires reverting the
change in arch/x86?
2) The qcow2 code is a filesystem implemented in userspace. Image formats are
file systems. It really should be reviewed by the filesystem maintainers.
There is absolutely no attempt made to synchronize the metadata during write
operations which means that you do not have crash consistency of the meta data.
If you experience a power failure or kvm-tool crashs, your image will get
corrupted. I highly doubt a file system would ever be merged into Linux that
was this naive about data integrity.
3) The block probing code replicates a well known CVE from three years ago[1].
Using kvm-tool, a malicious guest could write the qcow2 signature to the zero
sector and use that to attack the host.
I found these three issues in the course of about 30 seconds of looking through
the kvm-tool code. I'm sure if other people with expertise in these areas
looked through the code, they would find a lot more issues. I'm sure I could
find many, many more issues.
This is really the problem with the tools/kvm approach. It circumvents the
normal review process in the kernel because the kernel maintainer structure is
not equipped to properly review userspace code in tools. This is a tool with
data integrity and security implications. It is not a pretty printing routine
or a test case.
While I think it's a neat and potentially useful project, I think long before we
get to the point where we discuss merging it into the kernel, the code quality
has to improve considerably.
[1] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-2004
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-10 3:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-04 8:38 [RFC/GIT PULL] Linux KVM tool for v3.2 Pekka Enberg
2011-11-04 12:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-04 12:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-04 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-04 13:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-04 14:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-04 15:16 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-04 16:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-04 16:48 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-04 17:33 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-04 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-11-04 16:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-04 17:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-04 13:14 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-11-04 14:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-08 14:44 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2011-11-08 15:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 16:00 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2011-11-10 3:50 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-11-10 6:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-10 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-10 8:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-10 8:23 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 8:28 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-10 8:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-10 9:04 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 9:14 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 9:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 9:34 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 9:49 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 9:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-10 13:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 13:56 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-10 14:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-11-10 15:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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