From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Checkpoint/Restore: Show in proc IDs of objects that can be shared between tasks
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:24:58 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EC6246A.6020807@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111117124831.688adbeb.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> One of the ways for checking whether two tasks share e.g. an mm_struct is to
>> provide some mm_struct ID of a task to its proc file. The best from the
>> performance point of view ID is the object address in the kernel, but showing
>> them to the userspace is not good for security reasons.
>>
>> Thus the object address is XOR-ed with a "random" value of the same size and
>> then shown in proc. Providing this poison is not leaked into the userspace then
>> ID seem to be safe. The objects for which the IDs are shown are:
>>
>> * all namespaces living in /proc/pid/ns/
>> * open files (shown in /proc/pid/fdinfo/)
>> * objects, that can be shared with CLONE_XXX flags (except for namespaces)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
>
> It doesn't *sound* terribly secure. There might be clever ways in
> which userspace can determine the secret mask, dunno. We should ask
> evil-minded security people to review this proposal.
Can you please propose some particular persons we should put in Cc for this thread?
> Why not simply use a sequence number, increment it each time we create
> an mm_struct? On could use an idr tree to prevent duplicates but it
> would be simpler and sufficient to make it 64-bit and we never have to
> worry about wraparound causing duplicates.
IDR is not OK for me, since we'll have to call it on every fork() thus penalizing
its performance. 64bit increasing numbers are perfectly fine with me (I did this
in the 1st proposal, but put the ID on slub to save space - 64bits per page, not per
object).
But I have one question regarding storing these long IDs per-object. Are we OK with
adding 64-bit field on *all* the structures we need for this? I'm mostly worried
about these small ones like sem_undo_list and fs_struct.
Thanks,
Pavel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-18 9:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-17 9:55 [PATCH v2 0/4] Checkpoint/Restore: Show in proc IDs of objects that can be shared between tasks Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 9:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] Routine for generating a safe ID for kernel pointer Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 9:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 9:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] proc: Show open file ID in /proc/pid/fdinfo/* Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Checkpoint/Restore: Show in proc IDs of objects that can be shared between tasks Andrew Morton
2011-11-18 9:24 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2011-11-18 19:07 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-18 20:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-18 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-18 21:03 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-18 21:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-18 22:10 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-11-18 23:46 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-19 1:09 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-11-19 5:30 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-18 23:38 ` Matt Helsley
2011-11-19 5:35 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-19 7:57 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-11-19 8:10 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-11-19 8:18 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-11-19 15:34 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
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