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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Andrew Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc 2/3] fs, proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:37:10 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ED8E296.3070005@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201112021425.44897.pedro@codesourcery.com>

On 12/02/2011 06:25 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On Friday 02 December 2011 14:17:08, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> 
>> O_O   OK, I was wrong, they do live there. But I consider this as bug.
> 
> You can't change that.  It'd break current gdb at least.

OMG!

>> I.e. each task will be shown multiple times, which is not very fun, but memory exhaustive from my POV.
> 
> Now that is a good argument against hard linking.  But not if you make
> the entries under children/ symlinks.  Then find doesn't recurse.  And
> then 
> 
> $ find -L /proc/PID/
> 
> does recurse and give you the whole tree.  Which I'd say is
> actually useful...

It is useful, but the /proc/pid/children file solves the same problem in a much
more simple way. The memory usage by proc (one file vs one dir and a set of files)
is less and time to lookup a child is also less (read + lookup vs readdir + lookup 
(symlink itself) + lookup (symlink resolve)).

Yes, it doesn't allow you to have fun with find, but frankly, do you really need
this? Even if we're talking about gdb -- reading /proc/pid/children is not harder
and not easier than readdir-ing it.

IOW - what's the real benefit of a directory with symlinks against a file except
for a fun?

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-02 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-29 19:12 [rfc 0/3] A small bundle in a sake of checkpoint/restore Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 1/3] fs, proc: Add start_data, end_data, start_brk members to /proc/$pid/stat Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:06   ` Kees Cook
2011-12-02  0:24     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-12-02  7:28       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02 19:23         ` Kees Cook
2011-12-02 19:28           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:32   ` Serge Hallyn
2011-11-30  5:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 2/3] fs, proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30  5:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-30  6:05     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01  9:54       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01 15:43         ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-01 15:53           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-01 16:07             ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-01 21:29         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-01 21:38           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02  0:40         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-02 12:41           ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 12:43             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 12:45               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-02 13:10                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 13:40                   ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 12:58               ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 13:16                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 13:44                   ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 13:52                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 14:00                       ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 14:17                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-02 14:25                           ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-02 14:37                             ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2011-12-02 14:45                               ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-29 19:12 ` [rfc 3/3] prctl: Add PR_SET_MM codes to tune up mm_struct entires Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:19   ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:29     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:37       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:40         ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:47           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 17:37           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 18:10             ` Kees Cook
2011-11-30 18:23               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-30 21:06                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-07 12:27                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-07 22:43                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-08  7:07                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-08  7:15                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-08  7:30                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-29 20:37       ` Kees Cook
2011-11-29 20:49       ` Serge Hallyn
2011-11-29 20:55         ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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