From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751903Ab1L3Ubi (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:31:38 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:56267 "EHLO mail-qy0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751479Ab1L3Ubh (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:31:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4EFE1FA4.3090207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:31:32 -0500 From: KOSAKI Motohiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cyrill Gorcunov CC: Herbert Xu , Tejun Heo , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Emelyanov , Glauber Costa , Andi Kleen , Matt Helsley , Pekka Enberg , Eric Dumazet , Vasiliy Kulikov , Andrew Morton , Alexey Dobriyan , "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] Add routine for generating an ID for kernel pointer References: <20111228162653.GM17712@google.com> <20111228164055.GR27266@moon> <20111228164522.GO17712@google.com> <20111228165336.GS27266@moon> <20111228170116.GQ17712@google.com> <20111228171419.GA19321@moon> <20111229142438.GI4460@moon> <20111229161414.GC3516@google.com> <20111229162453.GC4806@moon> <20111230002309.GA11508@gondor.apana.org.au> <20111230073655.GE4806@moon> In-Reply-To: <20111230073655.GE4806@moon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (12/30/11 2:36 AM), Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:23:09AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 08:24:53PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: >>> >>> Probably I've had to crypto_alloc_hash earlier and simply keep a reference >>> to algo but since I'm not sure if looking for modules in late-init-call >>> is good idea. >> >> Right, the allocation needs to occur in a sleepable context. >> >> If you're just hashing something small and have no need for >> hardware acceleration then lib/sha1.c is fine. >> > > Hi, yeah, it's just one message block hashing so I've switched > to lib/sha1.c. Herbert, I'm more interested in security analysis > -- would the sha1(msg), where the 'msg' is the kernel pointer > XOR'ed with random value and expanded to the 512 bits would be > safe enough for export to unprivilege users? Even if now we don't know an attacking way of sha1 reverse hashing, we may discover within 10 years. Many secure messages lost from hardware speedup and new algorithm attack. so, nobody can say it's abi safe. And, if you don't use perfect hash, you may have a hash collision risk. What's happen if different pointer makes same ID?