Latest kernel stable/longterm status

Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
different stable/longterm kernel trees.

First off, please everyone remember to mark any patch that you want to
have applied to the stable kernel trees with a simple:
	Cc: stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
marking in the Signed-off-by: area.  Once the patch hits Linus's tree, I
will automatically be notified of it and it will be applied if possible.
If it does not applied, you will be notified of that.

Note that the address is stable@vger.kernel.org, not the older address
that used to be used before October of 2011.

At this time, all stable and longterm kernel trees are being maintained
in one big git tree, located at:
	git.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
There are different branches for every different major kernel version.

Here's the different active kernel versions that I am maintaining at the moment:

 3.2.y - this will be maintained until 3.3 comes out
 3.1.y - there will be only one, maybe two, more releases of this tree
 3.0.y - this is the new "longterm" kernel release, it will be
         maintained for 2 years at the minimum by me.
 2.6.32.y - this is the previous "longterm" kernel release.  It is
	    approaching it's end-of-life, and I think I only have
	    another month or so doing releases of this.  After I am
	    finished with it, it might be picked up by someone else, but
	    I'm not going to promise anything.

All other longterm kernels are being maintained in various forms
(usually quite sporadically, if at all), by other people, and I can not
speak for their lifetime at all, that is up to those individuals.

If anyone has any questions about any of this, please let me know.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Steven Rostedt]

On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:37:05PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
> different stable/longterm kernel trees.

Thanks for all your hard work Greg!

> Here's the different active kernel versions that I am maintaining at the moment:
> 
>  3.2.y - this will be maintained until 3.3 comes out
>  3.1.y - there will be only one, maybe two, more releases of this tree
>  3.0.y - this is the new "longterm" kernel release, it will be
>          maintained for 2 years at the minimum by me.

I will also point out, that I plan on maintaining the 3.0.y-rtx release
for just as long.

-- Steve

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Tim Gardner]

On 01/10/2012 03:26 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:37:05PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
>> As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
>> different stable/longterm kernel trees.
>
> Thanks for all your hard work Greg!
>

I'd also like to thank Greg.

Ubuntu will continue to support 2.6.32.y until April 2015. Ubuntu has 
also chosen 3.2 as a long term supported kernel for the 12.04 release 
and will pick up support for it when 3.3 is released.

Debian is still discussing which kernel to use for Wheezy, but Ben 
Hutchings has expressed strong interest in 3.2 on 
debian-kernel@lists.debian.org.

rtg
-- 
Tim Gardner tim.gardner@canonical.com

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:03:33AM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> On 01/10/2012 03:26 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:37:05PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> >>As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
> >>different stable/longterm kernel trees.
> >
> >Thanks for all your hard work Greg!
> >
> 
> I'd also like to thank Greg.
> 
> Ubuntu will continue to support 2.6.32.y until April 2015. Ubuntu
> has also chosen 3.2 as a long term supported kernel for the 12.04
> release and will pick up support for it when 3.3 is released.

What exactly do you mean by this?

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Anca Emanuel]

>> Ubuntu will continue to support 2.6.32.y until April 2015. Ubuntu
>> has also chosen 3.2 as a long term supported kernel for the 12.04
>> release and will pick up support for it when 3.3 is released.

Do you think you can do it for 5 years ? why not moving forward with
3.3 then 3.4 ?

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Tim Gardner]

On 01/11/2012 12:56 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:03:33AM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
>> On 01/10/2012 03:26 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:37:05PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
>>>> As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
>>>> different stable/longterm kernel trees.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your hard work Greg!
>>>
>>
>> I'd also like to thank Greg.
>>
>> Ubuntu will continue to support 2.6.32.y until April 2015. Ubuntu
>> has also chosen 3.2 as a long term supported kernel for the 12.04
>> release and will pick up support for it when 3.3 is released.
>
> What exactly do you mean by this?
>
> greg k-h

If you're agreeable, I would very much prefer to continue with the 
stable update model that you've developed by committing to the 
linux-2.6.32.y and linux-3.2.y branches in 
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git. 
The mailing list review process as well as the policies regarding patch 
suitability are working well.

rtg
-- 
Tim Gardner tim.gardner@canonical.com

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:37, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> First off, please everyone remember to mark any patch that you want to
> have applied to the stable kernel trees with a simple:
>        Cc: stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> marking in the Signed-off-by: area.  Once the patch hits Linus's tree, I
> will automatically be notified of it and it will be applied if possible.
> If it does not applied, you will be notified of that.

How do you want us to specify to which versions it should be applied?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 13:32, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:37, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
>> First off, please everyone remember to mark any patch that you want to
>> have applied to the stable kernel trees with a simple:
>>        Cc: stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
>> marking in the Signed-off-by: area.  Once the patch hits Linus's tree, I
>> will automatically be notified of it and it will be applied if possible.
>> If it does not applied, you will be notified of that.
>
> How do you want us to specify to which versions it should be applied?

Cc: v3.2, v3.1, ... <stable@vger.kernel.org>

?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> On 01/11/2012 12:56 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:03:33AM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> >>On 01/10/2012 03:26 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:37:05PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> >>>>As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
> >>>>different stable/longterm kernel trees.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for all your hard work Greg!
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'd also like to thank Greg.
> >>
> >>Ubuntu will continue to support 2.6.32.y until April 2015. Ubuntu
> >>has also chosen 3.2 as a long term supported kernel for the 12.04
> >>release and will pick up support for it when 3.3 is released.
> >
> >What exactly do you mean by this?
> >
> >greg k-h
> 
> If you're agreeable, I would very much prefer to continue with the
> stable update model that you've developed by committing to the
> linux-2.6.32.y and linux-3.2.y branches in git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git.
> The mailing list review process as well as the policies regarding
> patch suitability are working well.

As I previously stated, in this email, I already have someone lined up
to maintain 2.6.32 after I am done with it, but I'm sure that person
would love it if you would send any needed patches to
stable@vger.kernel.org to help them out.

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 01:42:08PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 13:32, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:37, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> >> First off, please everyone remember to mark any patch that you want to
> >> have applied to the stable kernel trees with a simple:
> >>        Cc: stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> >> marking in the Signed-off-by: area.  Once the patch hits Linus's tree, I
> >> will automatically be notified of it and it will be applied if possible.
> >> If it does not applied, you will be notified of that.
> >
> > How do you want us to specify to which versions it should be applied?
> 
> Cc: v3.2, v3.1, ... <stable@vger.kernel.org>

That can work, or if you read Documenation/stable_kernel_rules.txt you
can see some other ways to nicely do this :)

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Tim Gardner]

On 01/11/2012 04:12 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>
> As I previously stated, in this email, I already have someone lined up
> to maintain 2.6.32 after I am done with it, but I'm sure that person
> would love it if you would send any needed patches to
> stable@vger.kernel.org to help them out.
>
> greg k-h

I'm happy to work with whomever. Your original email with "it might be 
picked up by someone else, but I'm not going to promise anything" didn't 
seem that definite.

rtg
-- 
Tim Gardner tim.gardner@canonical.com

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:37:07PM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> On 01/11/2012 04:12 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> >As I previously stated, in this email, I already have someone lined up
> >to maintain 2.6.32 after I am done with it, but I'm sure that person
> >would love it if you would send any needed patches to
> >stable@vger.kernel.org to help them out.
> >
> >greg k-h
> 
> I'm happy to work with whomever. Your original email with "it might
> be picked up by someone else, but I'm not going to promise anything"
> didn't seem that definite.

Sorry, I didn't want to put words in the mouth of someone else, but
given that Willy has done a great job with 2.4 and 2.6.16, I'm pretty
sure he will continue to do well with 2.6.32.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Willy Tarreau]

Hi Greg,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:52:12PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:37:07PM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> > On 01/11/2012 04:12 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > >
> > >As I previously stated, in this email, I already have someone lined up
> > >to maintain 2.6.32 after I am done with it, but I'm sure that person
> > >would love it if you would send any needed patches to
> > >stable@vger.kernel.org to help them out.
> > >
> > >greg k-h
> > 
> > I'm happy to work with whomever. Your original email with "it might
> > be picked up by someone else, but I'm not going to promise anything"
> > didn't seem that definite.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't want to put words in the mouth of someone else, but
> given that Willy has done a great job with 2.4 and 2.6.16, I'm pretty
> sure he will continue to do well with 2.6.32.

Thanks for the nice comment :-) Please note that I did not work on
2.6.16, Adrian did, I only worked on .20 and .27.

Yes I'm still interested in taking over 2.6.32 when you give it up. I
must admit I've got quite silent last months, slowly trying to find time
to backport 2.6.32 fixes into .27, and still a bit afraid by the added
complexity of the new publication model. Time will tell. This weel-end
I hope to be able to produce 2.6.27.60-rc1.

What is very important to me is that I want people to complain if they
find that I'm too slow, as I don't want to degrade the quality of the
stable series by taking a position someone would take better.

Thanks,
Willy

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Greg KH]

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 02:36:20PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:52:12PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:37:07PM +0100, Tim Gardner wrote:
> > > On 01/11/2012 04:12 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > > >
> > > >As I previously stated, in this email, I already have someone lined up
> > > >to maintain 2.6.32 after I am done with it, but I'm sure that person
> > > >would love it if you would send any needed patches to
> > > >stable@vger.kernel.org to help them out.
> > > >
> > > >greg k-h
> > > 
> > > I'm happy to work with whomever. Your original email with "it might
> > > be picked up by someone else, but I'm not going to promise anything"
> > > didn't seem that definite.
> > 
> > Sorry, I didn't want to put words in the mouth of someone else, but
> > given that Willy has done a great job with 2.4 and 2.6.16, I'm pretty
> > sure he will continue to do well with 2.6.32.
> 
> Thanks for the nice comment :-) Please note that I did not work on
> 2.6.16, Adrian did, I only worked on .20 and .27.

Ah, you are right, sorry about that, too many different trees :)

But also note that Adrian didn't really follow the "stable rules", so I
don't count that as proper maintaining of that tree.

> Yes I'm still interested in taking over 2.6.32 when you give it up. I
> must admit I've got quite silent last months, slowly trying to find time
> to backport 2.6.32 fixes into .27, and still a bit afraid by the added
> complexity of the new publication model. Time will tell. This weel-end
> I hope to be able to produce 2.6.27.60-rc1.
> 
> What is very important to me is that I want people to complain if they
> find that I'm too slow, as I don't want to degrade the quality of the
> stable series by taking a position someone would take better.

I don't think you will do a bad job at all, You'll do fine, if you need
any help, feel free to ask.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: Latest kernel stable/longterm status

[Willy Tarreau]

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:47:06AM -0500, Greg KH wrote:
> > Yes I'm still interested in taking over 2.6.32 when you give it up. I
> > must admit I've got quite silent last months, slowly trying to find time
> > to backport 2.6.32 fixes into .27, and still a bit afraid by the added
> > complexity of the new publication model. Time will tell. This weel-end
> > I hope to be able to produce 2.6.27.60-rc1.
> > 
> > What is very important to me is that I want people to complain if they
> > find that I'm too slow, as I don't want to degrade the quality of the
> > stable series by taking a position someone would take better.
> 
> I don't think you will do a bad job at all, You'll do fine, if you need
> any help, feel free to ask.

Yeah, I know you're always there to help me when I need, this is what keeps
me going :-)

Cheers,
Willy