From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christian Hoff <christian.hoff@de.ibm.com>,
borntrae@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
mst@redhat.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: Pe: [PATCH v5 1/3] virtio-scsi: first version
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:05:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F38B657.7060405@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329077777.21613.60.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>
On 12/02/12 21:16, James Bottomley wrote:
> Well, no-one's yet answered the question I had about why.
Just to give one example from a different angle:
In the big datacenters tape libraries are still very important, and lots
of them have a scsi attachement. virtio-blk certainly is not the right
way to handle those. Furthermore it seems even pretty hard to craft
a virtio-tape since most of those libraries have vendor specific library
controls (via sg). We would need to duplicate scsi generic (hint, hint :-)
> virtio-scsi seems to be a basic duplication of virtio-blk except that it seems to
> fix some problems virtio-blk has. Namely queue parameter discover,
> which virtio-blk doesn't seem to do. There may also be a reason to cut
> the stack lower down. Error handling is most often cited for this, but
> no-one's satisfactorily explaned why it's better to do error handling in
> the guest instead of the host.
>
> Could someone please explain to me why you can't simply fix virtio-blk?
I dont think that virtio-scsi will replace virtio-blk everywhere. For non-scsi
block devices, image files or logical volumes virtio-blk seems to be the right
approach, I think.
> Or would virtio-blk maintainers give a reason why they're unwilling to
> have it fixed?
I dont consider virtio-blk broken. It just doesnt cover everything.
Christian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-13 7:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-06 9:51 Pe: [PATCH v5 1/3] virtio-scsi: first version Christian Hoff
2012-02-07 9:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 11:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-07 11:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 11:56 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-02-07 12:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 13:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-02-07 13:59 ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-07 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 13:37 ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-09 9:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-09 12:18 ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-12 20:16 ` James Bottomley
2012-02-12 23:41 ` Rusty Russell
2012-02-13 7:05 ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2012-02-13 7:57 ` Dor Laor
2012-02-13 12:40 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-13 12:54 ` Dor Laor
2012-02-13 13:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 13:13 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 13:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-13 13:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 15:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2012-02-13 20:42 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 20:53 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 22:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 23:30 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 23:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-14 0:49 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-14 1:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-14 9:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-13 11:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2012-02-13 9:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-14 0:07 ` Rusty Russell
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