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From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"shuahkhan@gmail.com" <shuahkhan@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] ramoops: use pstore interface
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:34:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F83F08E.6070304@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F170D020E@ORSMSX104.amr.corp.intel.com>

Il 09/04/2012 23:42, Luck, Tony ha scritto:
>> The patch breaks ramoops module unloading.  Tony says there's "no
>> credible end-user case" for this and Marco promptly provided one,
>> which was ignored.
>
> I'm not sure that I understood Marco's use case. He said:
>
>> First of all ramoops was born mainly for debug purpose and
>> to help the maintainability of a product. I used it in systems
>> where the uptime (so no reboot) was important. So it can be
>> very useful for me load the module, gather logs and unload it
>> for example. A kernel panic is not recoverable so the reboot
>> is needed but it's not always true for a kernel oops.
>
> In the non-crashed oops case ... aren't all the logs you need
> in /var/log/messages?
>
> -Tony

Maybe you right, but it could be useful to have a "single log point" 
especially for automatic/semi-automatic log gathering. I'm not sure we 
can *always* read from messages in case of non-crashed oops. Sure, it 
will be possible after a reboot, but if /var was mounted with tmpfs (on 
embedded systems it's possible :)) we have no log.

PS: It's only a brainstorming on all the possible situation :)

Marco

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-10  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-17 23:58 [PATCH v5] ramoops: use pstore interface Kees Cook
2012-01-18 22:06 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 22:16   ` Kees Cook
2012-01-18 22:40     ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-18 22:47       ` Kees Cook
2012-01-18 23:20         ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-21  8:33           ` Marco Stornelli
2012-04-02 20:39             ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-02 20:51               ` Kees Cook
2012-04-02 21:09                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-09 21:33                 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-09 21:42                   ` Luck, Tony
2012-04-10  8:34                     ` Marco Stornelli [this message]
2012-04-10 16:11                       ` Kees Cook
2012-04-11  6:33                         ` Marco Stornelli
2012-04-11  6:37                           ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 22:37   ` Luck, Tony

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