From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
James Bottomley <JBottomley@parallels.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: Silence unnecessary warnings about ioctl to partition
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:16:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA1A42B.7090204@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120502194945.GB18339@quack.suse.cz>
Il 02/05/2012 21:49, Jan Kara ha scritto:
> I'm not sure they would be willing to try a different kernel because it's
> a production system. But maybe I can find out what SG_IO command is sent
> via strace?
Yes.
Hmm, you mentioned Veritas and that reminds me of
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740504. If that is the
case, the filesystem is simply pinging the destination with INQUIRY
commands, something for which it would be worthwhile to have a
non-privileged ioctl anyway.
>>> Also I tend to side with Alan that I don't quite see
>>> the point in trying to restrict CAP_SYS_RAWIO threads and thus breaking the
>>> compatibility
>>
>> For example, we have a customer that wants this:
>>
>> * a VM should be able to send vendor-specific commands to a disk via
>> SG_IO (vendor-specific commands require CAP_SYS_RAWIO).
>>
>> * they want to assign logical volumes or partitions to the same VM
>> without letting it read or write outside the logical volume or partition.
>
> But then it seems like they really want to be able to forbid sending
> SG_IO commands to some devices while allowing them for other devices and
> the distinction by partition / non-partition is a bit arbitrary?
Yes, forbidding SG_IO commands on some disks would be nice. Still,
partition/non-partition is an important distinction. If you pass a
whole disk and give CAP_SYS_RAWIO to QEMU, the guest may do some damage
but not more than what a bare-metal system could do. If you pass a
partition, the guest can stomp on other VMs or the host's data and even
write them, which is a security problem.
So you could add a more restrictive filter to partitions, but then
you're adding hack above hack to justify a wrong decision.
>> Of course a better solution for this would be customizable filters for
>> SG_IO commands, where a privileged application would open the block
>> device with CAP_SYS_RAWIO, set the filter and hand the file descriptor
>> to QEMU. Or alternatively some extension of the device cgroup. But
>> either solution would require a large amount of work.
>
> I'm not sure whether you need to filter individual SG_IO commands or not.
> For your use case it seems that being able to forbid SG_IO completely for
> some fd (which would be passed to qemu) would be enough? But maybe filters
> are simpler to implement because they already exist, I don't really know...
If you implement a yes/no toggle, some use case will pop up later for
filters (in fact, a rudimentary filter based on CAP_SYS_RAWIO is
_already_ in the kernel which already proves this).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-02 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-02 10:10 [PATCH] scsi: Silence unnecessary warnings about ioctl to partition Jan Kara
2012-05-02 10:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 10:37 ` Jens Axboe
2012-05-02 10:54 ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 11:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:12 ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 11:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:05 ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 12:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 19:38 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-03 7:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-03 12:40 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-03 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-03 17:36 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04 6:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-04 13:06 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04 13:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-04 13:11 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04 13:24 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-02 13:51 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 15:10 ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 15:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 20:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 19:49 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 21:16 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-06-15 8:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-15 8:46 ` Jan Kara
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-15 10:50 Jan Kara
2012-06-15 10:51 ` Jens Axboe
2012-06-15 13:58 ` Nick Bowler
2012-06-15 14:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-15 14:23 ` Jan Kara
2012-06-15 14:31 ` Nick Bowler
2012-06-15 11:00 ` Alan Cox
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