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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void *
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:18:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB06B91.1080008@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120511192831.GC3785@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On 05/12/2012 04:28 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:

>> Please look.
>>
>> struct zs_handle {
>> 	void *handle
>> };
>>
>> 1)
>>
>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>> {
>> 	struct zs_handle handle;
>> 	..
>> 	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>> 	..
>> 	return handle;
> 
> Compiler will complain that you are returning incorrect type.


My bad. &handle.

> 
>> }
>>
>> handle is on stack so it can't be used by index for slot of radix tree.
> 
> The fix is of course to return a pointer (which your function
> declared), and instead do this:
> 
> {
> 	struct zs_handle *handle;
> 
> 	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);


It's not a good idea.
For it, zs_malloc needs memory space to keep zs_handle internally.
Why should zsallocator do it? Just for zcache?
It's not good abstraction.


> 	return handle;
> }
> 
>>
>> 2)
>>
>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>> {
>> 	struct zs_handle handle;
>> 	..
>> 	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>> 	..
>> 	return handle.handle;
>> }
>>
>> Okay. Now it works but zcache coupled with zsmalloc tightly.
>> User of zsmalloc should never know internal of zs_handle.
> 
> OK. Then it can just forward declare it:
> 
> struct zs_handle;
> 
> and zsmalloc will treat it as an opaque pointer.
> 
>>
>> 3)
>>
>> - zsmalloc.h
>> void *zs_handle_to_ptr(struct zs_handle handle)
>> {
>> 	return handle.hanle;
>> }
>>
>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>> {
>> 	struct zs_handle handle;
>> 	..
>> 	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>> 	..
>> 	return zs_handle_to_ptr(handle);
> 
>> }
> 
>>
>> Why should zsmalloc support such interface?
> 
> Why not? It is better than a 'void *' or a typedef.
> 
> It is modeled after a pte_t.


It's not same with pte_t.
We normally don't use pte_val to (void*) for unique index of slot.
The problem is that zcache assume handle of zsmalloc is a sizeof(void*)'s
unique value but zcache never assume it's a sizeof(void*).

> 
> 
>> It's a zcache problem so it's desriable to solve it in zcache internal.
> 
> Not really. We shouldn't really pass any 'void *' pointers around.
> 
>> And in future, if we can add/remove zs_handle's fields, we can't make
>> sure such API.
> 
> Meaning ... what exactly do you mean? That the size of the structure
> will change and we won't return the right value? Why not?
> If you use the 'zs_handle_to_ptr' won't that work? Especially if you
> add new values to the end of the struct it won't cause issues.


I mean we might change zs_handle to following as, in future.
(It's insane but who know it?)

struct zs_handle {
	int upper;
	int middle;
	int lower;
};

How could you handle this for zs_handle_to_ptr?

> 
>>
>>
>>>> Its true that making it a real struct would prevent accidental casts
>>>> to void * but due to the above problem, I think we have to stick
>>>> with unsigned long.
> 
> So the problem you are seeing is that you don't want 'struct zs_handle'
> be present in the drivers/staging/zsmalloc/zsmalloc.h header file?
> It looks like the proper place.


No. What I want is to remove coupling zsallocator's handle with zram/zcache.
They shouldn't know internal of handle and assume it's a pointer.

If Nitin confirm zs_handle's format can never change in future, I prefer "unsigned long" Nitin suggested than (void *).
It can prevent confusion that normal allocator's return value is pointer for address so the problem is easy.
But I am not sure he can make sure it.

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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-14  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03  6:40 [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Minchan Kim
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] zsmalloc: add/fix function comment Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:19   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void * Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:32   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 15:23     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-04  2:24       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07 15:01         ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-09 20:19         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10  2:03           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 14:02             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 14:12               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 14:47               ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 15:00                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:11                 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 16:29                     ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 16:44                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 17:24                         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 17:33                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 23:24                             ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 23:50                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:14                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 16:31                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 19:29                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 21:49                                     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-14  2:26                                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:28                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  2:18                                 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-05-15  1:57                                   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-15  2:21                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:04                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:36                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 11:06                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] zsmalloc: zsmalloc: align cache line size Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:58   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-04  2:27     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07  7:41       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 12:40         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-08  1:34           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 14:00             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  0:58               ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09  3:08                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  4:07                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11  0:03                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:25                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:06                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  1:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:18                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:44                           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Nitin Gupta

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