From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Aristeu Rozanski <arozansk@redhat.com>,
Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RAS: Add a tracepoint for reporting memory controller events
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:33:25 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC748F5.9070709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120531100005.GC14074@aftab.osrc.amd.com>
Em 31-05-2012 07:00, Borislav Petkov escreveu:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:24:41PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> u32 grain; /* granularity of reported error in bytes */
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>>> dimm->grain = nr_pages << PAGE_SHIFT;
>>
>> I'm not at all sure what we'll see digging into the chipset registers
>> like EDAC does - but we do have different granularity when reporting
>> via machine check banks. That's why we have this code:
>>
>> /*
>> * Mask the reported address by the reported granularity.
>> */
>> if (mce_ser && (m->status & MCI_STATUS_MISCV)) {
>> u8 shift = MCI_MISC_ADDR_LSB(m->misc);
>> m->addr >>= shift;
>> m->addr <<= shift;
>
> That's 64 bytes max, IIRC.
>
>> in mce_read_aux(). In practice right now I think that many errors will
>> report with cache line granularity,
>
> Yep.
>
>> while a few (IIRC patrol scrub) will report with page (4K)
>> granularity. Linux doesn't really care - they all have to get rounded
>> up to page size because we can't take away just one cache line from a
>> process.
>
> I'd like to see that :-)
>
>>> @Tony: Can you ensure us that, on Intel memory controllers, the address
>>> mask remains constant at module's lifetime, or are there any events that
>>> may change it (memory hot-plug, mirror mode changes, interleaving
>>> reconfiguration, ...)?
>>
>> I could see different controllers (or even different channels) having
>> different setup if you have a system with different size/speed/#ranks
>> DIMMs ... most systems today allow almost arbitrary mix & match, and the
>> BIOS will decide which interleave modes are possible based on what it
>> finds in the slots. Mirroring imposes more constraints, so you will
>> see less crazy options. Hot plug for Linux reduces to just the hot add
>> case (as we still don't have a good way to remove DIMM sized chunks of
>> memory) ... so I don't see any clever reconfiguration possibilities
>> there (when you add memory, all the existing memory had better stay
>> where it is, preserving contents).
>
> You're funny :-)
>
>> Perhaps the only option where things might change radically is socket
>> migration ... where the constraint is only that the target of the
>> migration have >= memory of the source. So you might move from some
>> weird configuration with mixed DIMM sizes and thus no interleave, to a
>> homogeneous socket with matched DIMMs and full interleave. But from an
>> EDAC level, this is a new controller on a new socket ... not a changed
>> configuration on an existing socket.
>
> Right, from the frequency of such events happening, it still sounds to
> me like the perfect place for the grain value is in sysfs.
Huh? Tony said that some errors report at 4K granularity while, others are at
cache line size. So, the granularity is a dynamic, per-error value.
Mapping a dynamic per-error field at sysfs is a huge mistake, as it would
require to change the sysfs value for every error report, and that race
conditions will happen, if userspace is not fast enough to read sysfs for
every single event, before the next one happens.
I can't see any alternative to return a per-error field other than using
the same API for the error and for all per-error fields. So, the grain should
be part of the tracepoint.
Regards,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-31 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-18 16:31 [PATCH EDAC v26 00/66] EDAC patches for v3.5 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 01/66] edac: Create a dimm struct and move the labels into it Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 03/66] edac: Don't initialize csrow's first_page & friends when not needed Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 04/66] edac: move nr_pages to dimm struct Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 05/66] edac: rewrite edac_align_ptr() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 06/66] edac.h: Add generic layers for describing a memory location Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 08/66] amd64_edac: convert driver to use the new edac ABI Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 09/66] amd76x_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 10/66] cell_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 11/66] cpc925_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:31 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 12/66] e752x_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 13/66] e7xxx_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 14/66] i3000_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 15/66] i3200_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 16/66] i5000_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 17/66] i5100_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 18/66] i5400_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 19/66] i7300_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 20/66] i7core_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 21/66] i82443bxgx_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 22/66] i82860_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 23/66] i82875p_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 24/66] i82975x_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 25/66] mpc85xx_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 26/66] mv64x60_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 27/66] pasemi_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 28/66] ppc4xx_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 29/66] r82600_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 30/66] sb_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 31/66] tile_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 32/66] x38_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 33/66] edac: Remove the legacy EDAC ABI Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 17:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 34/66] edac: Initialize the dimm label with the known information Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 35/66] edac: Cleanup the logs for i7core and sb edac drivers Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 36/66] i5400_edac: improve debug messages to better represent the filled memory Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 37/66] RAS: Add a tracepoint for reporting memory controller events Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-24 10:14 ` [PATCH] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-24 10:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-24 16:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-24 16:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-24 16:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-24 18:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-29 11:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-29 14:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-29 14:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-29 15:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-30 23:24 ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-31 10:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 10:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2012-05-31 12:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 13:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-31 14:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 14:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-31 14:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 15:01 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-31 15:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 16:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-31 17:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 18:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-31 18:33 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-05-31 19:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 19:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 19:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 20:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 20:52 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-01 9:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-06-01 9:40 ` Chen Gong
2012-06-01 12:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-01 15:42 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-01 16:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-06-01 18:21 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-01 23:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-06-01 23:19 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-01 23:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 16:51 ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-31 17:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 18:14 ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-31 19:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-31 18:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 38/66] i5000_edac: Fix the logic that retrieves memory information Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 39/66] e752x_edac: provide more info about how DIMMS/ranks are mapped Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 40/66] edac: Rename the parent dev to pdev Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 41/66] edac: use Documentation-nano format for some data structs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 42/66] edac: rewrite the sysfs code to use struct device Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 43/66] mpc85xx_edac: convert sysfs logic " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 44/66] amd64_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 45/66] i7core_edac: convert it " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 46/66] edac: Get rid of the old kobj's from the edac mc code Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 47/66] edac: add a new per-dimm API and make the old per-virtual-rank API obsolete Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 48/66] edac: add a sysfs node to report the maximum location for the system Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 49/66] edac: Add debufs nodes to allow doing fake error inject Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 50/66] edac: Move grain/dtype/edac_type calculus to be out of channel loop Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 51/66] i82975x_edac: Test nr_pages earlier to save a few CPU cycles Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 52/66] i5100_edac: Fix a warning when compiled with 32 bits Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 53/66] i7300_edac: Get rid of some wrongly-solved rebase conflict Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 54/66] edac: Only expose csrows/channels on legacy API if they're populated Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 55/66] edac: change the mem allocation scheme to make Documentation/kobject.txt happy Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 56/66] i7core_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 57/66] edac: move documentation ABI to ABI/testing/sysfs-devices-edac Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 58/66] Edac: Add ABI Documentation for the new device nodes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 59/66] i5000: Fix the fatal error handling Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 60/66] i7core: fix ranks information at the per-channel struct Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 61/66] edac: Don't add __func__ or __FILE__ for debugf[0-9] msgs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 62/66] edac: Use more normal debugging macro style Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 63/66] edac: Convert debugfX to edac_dbg(X, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 64/66] edac_mc: Cleanup per-dimm_info debug messages Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 65/66] edac: Increase version to 3.0.0 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:32 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 66/66] edac_mc: check for allocation failure in edac_mc_alloc() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 16:46 ` [PATCH EDAC v26 00/66] EDAC patches for v3.5 Borislav Petkov
2012-05-18 17:43 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-18 17:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-28 15:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-28 20:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-28 23:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-29 2:40 ` Chen Gong
2012-05-29 11:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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