From: Charles Wang <muming.wq@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Charles Wang" <muming.wq@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Tao Ma" <tm@tao.ma>, 含黛 <handai.szj@taobao.com>,
"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:27:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FDB4642.5070509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1339494970.31548.66.camel@twins>
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 05:56 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Also added Doug to CC, hopefully we now have everybody who pokes at this
> stuff.
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 17:34 +0800, Charles Wang wrote:
>> consider following case:
>>
>> 5HZ+1
>> | cpu0_load cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 calc_load_tasks
>> | 1 1 1 1
>> | -->calc_load 1
>> | 1 1 1 1
>> | -->calc_load 2
>> | 0 0 1 0
>> | -->calc_load 2+1-3=1
>
> Not sure but last time I did the math 2+1-3 ended up being 0.
>
>> | 1 1 0 1
>> | -->calc_load 1-1=0
>> V
>> 5HZ+11 -->calc_global_load 0
>>
>> actually the load should be around 3, but shows nearly 0.
>>
>> 1 tick is much long for some workloads.
>
> Yes, one tick is long for some stuff, but seeing we sample once every 5
> seconds a little fuzz around sampling the nr_running+nr_uninterruptible
> thing shouldn't be too bad.
>
> But I think I see what you're getting at.. lemme get more tea and ponder
> this a bit.
> .
>
In our mind per-cpu sampling for cpu idle and non-idle is equal. But
actually may not. For non-idle cpu sampling, it's right the load when
sampling. But for idle, cause of nohz, the sampling will be delayed to
nohz exit(less than 1 tick after nohz exit). Nohz exit is always caused
by processes woken up--non-idle model. It's not fair here, idle
calculated to non-idle.
time-expect-sampling
| time-do-sampling
| |
V V
-|-------------------------|--
start_nohz stop_nohz
This may explain why using my patch the load shows higher, also may
explain some reports about high load for current.
I tried a experiments, results showed better. Now i need more experiments.
Peter, is this right as i thought?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-15 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-09 10:54 [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Charles Wang
2012-06-11 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <4FD6BFC4.1060302@gmail.com>
2012-06-12 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-12 9:34 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-12 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13 5:55 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-13 7:56 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-14 4:41 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-14 15:42 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-16 6:42 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-13 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13 15:33 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-13 21:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14 3:13 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-20 19:24 ` sched: care and feeding of load-avg code (Re: [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate) Jonathan Nieder
2012-06-15 14:27 ` Charles Wang [this message]
2012-06-15 17:39 ` [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-16 14:53 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18 6:41 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-18 14:41 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-18 10:06 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-18 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19 6:08 ` Yong Zhang
2012-06-19 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19 15:50 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-20 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-21 4:12 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-21 6:35 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-21 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-24 21:45 ` Doug Smythies
2012-07-03 16:01 ` Doug Smythies
2012-06-25 2:15 ` Charles Wang
2012-07-06 6:19 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/nohz: Rewrite and fix load-avg computation -- again tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-19 6:19 ` [PATCH] sched: Folding nohz load accounting more accurate Doug Smythies
2012-06-19 6:24 ` Charles Wang
2012-06-19 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
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