From: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Potential fix for leapsecond caused futex related load spikes
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:58:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF1D33D.90703@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120702101606.GA16008@localhost.localdomain>
On 07/02/2012 03:16 AM, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 10:28:25AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
>> Reworking the patch now.
> John,
>
> I know you didn't like my (originally Michael Hack's) idea of keeping
> time in TAI, but wouldn't changing to an internal, continuous time
> scale (not necessary TAI) solve these sorts of timer issues?
So first, I don't think keeping a different time base would have avoided
this particular issue.
Its really an issue where the hrtimer code has in-effect a cache of
timekeeping state that, since clock_was_set() wasn't called, didn't get
updated when we applied the leapsecond.
Second, I'm not opposed to reworking how the internal system keeps track
of time. I just wasn't fond of specifics in your implementation (mostly
around mixing cleanups with behavioural changes).
I wouldn't be opposed to something like:
CLOCK_TAI = CLOCK_MONOTONIC + monotonic_to_tai
CLOCK_REALTIME = CLOCK_TAI + tai_to_utc
Also, some of your suggested changes to move some of the NTP state into
the timekeeper struct made sense as well, but just needed some slight
tweaks.
> There have been a number of clock/timer/leap bugs over the last
> years. Some of these might have been avoided by using a continuous
> scale, since no special timer actions would be needed during a leap
> second.
Unfortunately the other issues have been locking related, so I don't
think changing the internal time scale would have helped.
Regardless, I do hope you rework and resend your proposed changes.
Clearly we could use more eyes in this area.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-02 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-01 15:28 [PATCH] [RFC] Potential fix for leapsecond caused futex related load spikes Prarit Bhargava
2012-07-01 16:56 ` Prarit Bhargava
2012-07-01 17:28 ` John Stultz
2012-07-02 10:16 ` Richard Cochran
2012-07-02 16:58 ` John Stultz [this message]
2012-07-02 20:08 ` Sytse Wielinga
2012-07-03 9:23 ` Richard Cochran
2012-07-03 12:05 ` Sytse Wielinga
2012-07-03 13:41 ` Richard Cochran
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-01 9:36 John Stultz
2012-07-01 9:42 ` John Stultz
2012-07-01 12:00 ` Jan Ceuleers
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