From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
S390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
chegu vinod <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
"Andrew M. Theurer" <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
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Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:04:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FFD5DA3.3010001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FFD52CD.7040403@de.ibm.com>
On 07/11/2012 01:17 PM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> On 11/07/12 11:06, Avi Kivity wrote:
> [...]
>>> Almost all s390 kernels use diag9c (directed yield to a given guest cpu) for spinlocks, though.
>>
>> Perhaps x86 should copy this.
>
> See arch/s390/lib/spinlock.c
> The basic idea is using several heuristics:
> - loop for a given amount of loops
> - check if the lock holder is currently scheduled by the hypervisor
> (smp_vcpu_scheduled, which uses the sigp sense running instruction)
> Dont know if such thing is available for x86. It must be a lot cheaper
> than a guest exit to be useful
We could make it available via shared memory, updated using preempt
notifiers. Of course piling on more pv makes this less attractive.
> - if lock holder is not running and we looped for a while do a directed
> yield to that cpu.
>
>>
>>> So there is no win here, but there are other cases were diag44 is used, e.g. cpu_relax.
>>> I have to double check with others, if these cases are critical, but for now, it seems
>>> that your dummy implementation for s390 is just fine. After all it is a no-op until
>>> we implement something.
>>
>> Does the data structure make sense for you? If so we can move it to
>> common code (and manage it in kvm_vcpu_on_spin()). We can guard it with
>> CONFIG_KVM_HAVE_CPU_RELAX_INTERCEPT or something, so other archs don't
>> have to pay anything.
>
> Ignoring the name,
What name would you suggest?
> yes the data structure itself seems based on the algorithm
> and not on arch specific things. That should work. If we move that to common
> code then s390 will use that scheme automatically for the cases were we call
> kvm_vcpu_on_spin(). All others archs as well.
ARM doesn't have an instruction for cpu_relax(), so it can't intercept
it. Given ppc's dislike of overcommit, and the way it implements
cpu_relax() by adjusting hw thread priority, I'm guessing it doesn't
intercept those either, but I'm copying the ppc people in case I'm
wrong. So it's s390 and x86.
> So this would probably improve guests that uses cpu_relax, for example
> stop_machine_run. I have no measurements, though.
smp_call_function() too (though that can be converted to directed yield
too). It seems worthwhile.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-11 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-09 6:20 [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm vcpu: Note down pause loop exit Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:33 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 22:39 ` Rik van Riel
2012-07-10 11:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 8:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 10:52 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:56 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 12:41 ` Andrew Jones
2012-07-12 10:58 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-12 11:02 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] kvm PLE handler: Choose better candidate for directed yield Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 22:30 ` Rik van Riel
2012-07-10 11:46 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 7:55 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-10 8:27 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 9:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 10:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 11:04 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-07-11 11:16 ` Alexander Graf
2012-07-11 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:52 ` Alexander Graf
2012-07-11 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 2:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-11 11:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 5:11 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 8:32 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 2:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-12 8:12 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 11:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-12 10:38 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-11 11:51 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 11:55 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 12:04 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 13:04 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 21:47 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-07-10 9:26 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 10:07 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler : detailed result Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 11:54 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 13:27 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-07-11 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 13:59 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 14:01 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 8:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 8:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 12:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-09 22:28 ` Rik van Riel
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