From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
S390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, chegu vinod <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
linux390@de.ibm.com,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:55:11 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FFE89E7.2080409@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FFE8787.2020806@redhat.com>
On 07/12/2012 01:45 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/11/2012 05:01 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>> On 07/11/2012 07:29 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2012 02:30 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> On 07/10/2012 12:47 AM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the cpu threads in the host that are actually active (in this case
>>>>> 1/2 of them), ~50% of their time is in kernel and ~43% in guest. This
>>>>> is for a no-IO workload, so that's just incredible to see so much cpu
>>>>> wasted. I feel that 2 important areas to tackle are a more scalable
>>>>> yield_to() and reducing the number of pause exits itself (hopefully by
>>>>> just tuning ple_window for the latter).
>>>>
>>>> One thing we can do is autotune ple_window. If a ple exit fails to wake
>>>> anybody (because all vcpus are either running, sleeping, or in ple
>>>> exits) then we deduce we are not overcommitted and we can increase the
>>>> ple window. There's the question of how to decrease it again though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see some problem here, If I interpret situation correctly. What
>>> happens if we have two guests with one VM having no over-commit and
>>> other with high over-commit. (except when we have gang scheduling).
>>>
>> Sorry, I meant less load and high load inside the guest.
>>
>>> Rather we should have something tied to VM rather than rigid PLE
>>> window.
>
> The problem occurs even with no overcommit at all. One vcpu is in a
> legitimately long pause loop. All those exits accomplish nothing, since
> all vcpus are scheduled. Better to let it spin in guest mode.
>
I agree. One idea is we can have a scan_window to limit the scan of all
n vcpus each time we enter vcpu_spin, to say 2*log n initially;
then algorithm would be like;
if (yield fails)
increase ple_window , increase scan_window
if (yield succeeds)
decrease ple_window , decrease scan_window
and we have to set limit on what is max and min scan window and max and
min ple_window.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-12 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-09 6:20 [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm vcpu: Note down pause loop exit Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:33 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 22:39 ` Rik van Riel
2012-07-10 11:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 8:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 10:52 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:56 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 12:41 ` Andrew Jones
2012-07-12 10:58 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-12 11:02 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] kvm PLE handler: Choose better candidate for directed yield Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 22:30 ` Rik van Riel
2012-07-10 11:46 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 7:55 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-10 8:27 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 9:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 10:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 11:04 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:16 ` Alexander Graf
2012-07-11 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:52 ` Alexander Graf
2012-07-11 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 2:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-11 11:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 5:11 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 8:32 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 2:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-12 8:12 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 11:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-12 10:38 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-07-11 11:51 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 11:55 ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-07-11 12:04 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 13:04 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-09 21:47 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-07-10 9:26 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 10:07 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler : detailed result Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 11:54 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving directed yield in PLE handler Raghavendra K T
2012-07-10 13:27 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-07-11 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 13:59 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-11 14:01 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-07-12 8:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 8:25 ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2012-07-12 12:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-09 22:28 ` Rik van Riel
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