From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Ankur Arora" <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
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Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Haris Okanovic" <harisokn@amazon.com>,
"Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
zhenglifeng1@huawei.com, xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com,
"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v7 1/7] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:42:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c87bbf8-00a3-4666-b844-916edd678305@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251028053136.692462-2-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025, at 06:31, Ankur Arora wrote:
> + */
> +#ifndef smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout
> +#define smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(ptr, cond_expr, time_check_expr) \
> +({ \
> + typeof(ptr) __PTR = (ptr); \
> + __unqual_scalar_typeof(*ptr) VAL; \
> + u32 __n = 0, __spin = SMP_TIMEOUT_POLL_COUNT; \
> + \
> + for (;;) { \
> + VAL = READ_ONCE(*__PTR); \
> + if (cond_expr) \
> + break; \
> + cpu_poll_relax(__PTR, VAL); \
> + if (++__n < __spin) \
> + continue; \
> + if (time_check_expr) { \
> + VAL = READ_ONCE(*__PTR); \
> + break; \
> + } \
> + __n = 0; \
> + } \
> + (typeof(*ptr))VAL; \
> +})
> +#endif
I'm trying to think of ideas for how this would done on arm64
with FEAT_FWXT in a way that doesn't hurt other architectures.
The best idea I've come up with is to change that inner loop
to combine the cpu_poll_relax() with the timecheck and then
define the 'time_check_expr' so it has to return an approximate
(ceiling) number of nanoseconds of remaining time or zero if
expired.
The FEAT_WFXT version would then look something like
static inline void __cmpwait_u64_timeout(volatile u64 *ptr, unsigned long val, __u64 ns)
{
unsigned long tmp;
asm volatile ("sev; wfe; ldxr; eor; cbnz; wfet; 1:"
: "=&r" (tmp), "+Q" (*ptr)
: "r" (val), "r" (ns));
}
#define cpu_poll_relax_timeout_wfet(__PTR, VAL, TIMECHECK) \
({ \
u64 __t = TIMECHECK;
if (__t)
__cmpwait_u64_timeout(__PTR, VAL, __t);
})
while the 'wfe' version would continue to do the timecheck after the
wait.
I have two lesser concerns with the generic definition here:
- having both a timeout and a spin counter in the same loop
feels redundant and error-prone, as the behavior in practice
would likely depend a lot on the platform. What is the reason
for keeping the counter if we already have a fixed timeout
condition?
- I generally dislike the type-agnostic macros like this one,
it adds a lot of extra complexity here that I feel can be
completely avoided if we make explicitly 32-bit and 64-bit
wide versions of these macros. We probably won't be able
to resolve this as part of your series, but ideally I'd like
have explicitly-typed versions of cmpxchg(), smp_load_acquire()
and all the related ones, the same way we do for atomic_*()
and atomic64_*().
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-28 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-28 5:31 [RESEND PATCH v7 0/7] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 1/7] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 9:42 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-10-29 3:17 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-02 21:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-03 21:41 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 2/7] arm64: barrier: Support smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 8:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-28 16:21 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-10-28 18:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 21:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-02 21:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-03 21:00 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-04 13:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-05 8:27 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-05 10:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-06 0:36 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 3/7] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 4/7] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 5/7] atomic: Add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 6/7] rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 7/7] cpuidle/poll_state: Poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 12:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 4:41 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-29 18:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 19:13 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-29 20:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 21:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-04 18:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-05 8:30 ` Ankur Arora
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