From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
Cc: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] ima: always create runtime_measurements sysfs file for ima_hash
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 10:48:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4efc3cd7521eb1aef435af2b02a9a112f049c0f2.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmcboqg4.fsf@>
On Wed, 2025-03-26 at 14:46 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, 2025-03-26 at 09:21 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> > > Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 2025-03-23 at 15:09 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:
>
> > > > "ima_hash" is the default file hash algorithm. Re-using it as the default
> > > > complete measurement list assumes that the subsequent kexec'ed kernels configure
> > > > and define it as the default file hash algorithm as well, which might not be the
> > > > case.
> > >
> > > I don't really see why the ima_hashes would have to match between kexecs
> > > for this to work -- all events' template hashes are getting recreated
> > > from scratch anyway after kexec (ima_restore_measurement_list() ->
> > > ima_calc_field_array_hash()).
> > >
> > > That is, if ima_hash=sha256 first, and ima_hash=sha384 after kexec, one
> > > would have *runtime_measurements_sha256 first and
> > > *runtime_measurements_sha384 after kexec. And both had exclusively
> > > template hashes of their respective algo in them each.
> > >
> > > What am I missing?
> >
> > Your solution would work nicely, if the "ima_hash" algorithm could be guaranteed
> > to be built into the kernel. It's highly unlikely someone would choose a hash
> > algorithm not built into kernel, but it is possible. hash_setup() only verifies
> > that the hash algorithm is a valid name.
>
> But ima_init_ima_crypto(), hence the whole IMA __init, would fail if
> ima_hash was unavailable at __init time?
Thanks for pointing that out! Now I understand why just selecting SHA256 is
sufficient.
Mimi
>
> > Either fix hash_setup() to guarantee that the chosen hash algorithm is built
> > into the kernel or use the CONFIG_IMA_DEFAULT_HASH and add a Kconfig to select
> > the hash algorithm. This would be in lieu of v2 05/13.
> >
> > > > Drop this patch.
> > >
> > > Fine by me, but just to confirm, in case there's no TPM attached and
> > > SHA1 was disabled, there would be no /sys/*/*runtime_measurement* at all
> > > then. Is that Ok?
> >
> > Of course not. :)
> >
> > > ima_hash was chosen here only, because after this series, it will be the
> > > only single algorithm guaranteed to be available.
> >
> > With the proposed changes to "[RFC PATCH v2 05/13] ima: select CRYPTO_SHA256
> > from Kconfig', SHA256 would be added to the "extra" measurements if the TPM
> > SHA256 bank is disabled.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-26 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-23 14:08 [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/13] ima: don't expose runtime_measurements for unsupported hashes Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 14:26 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 7:44 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:28 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] ima: always create runtime_measurements sysfs file for ima_hash Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 14:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 8:21 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:17 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 13:46 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 14:48 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 21:18 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-25 1:03 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-25 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-26 8:45 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 15:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 9:01 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 14:18 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 14:31 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/13] ima: make SHA1 non-mandatory Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/13] ima: select CRYPTO_SHA256 from Kconfig Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 15:17 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/13] ima: move INVALID_PCR() to ima.h Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] tpm: enable bank selection for PCR extend Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 9:45 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 1:18 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 9:41 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/13] ima: track the set of PCRs ever extended Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 17:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 9:56 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks only once Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] tpm: authenticate tpm2_pcr_read() Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 17:25 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-26 6:34 ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/13] ima: introduce ima_pcr_invalidated_banks() helper Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/13] ima: make ima_free_tfm()'s linkage extern Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/13] ima: don't re-invalidate unsupported PCR banks after kexec Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 1:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Mimi Zohar
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