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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	"Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>,
	"Wei Yang" <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen/balloon: fix page onlining when populating new zone
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 10:50:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f1908b5-5674-a772-3cd9-78e4dc40f776@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89ad978d-e95e-d3ea-5c8f-acf4b28f992c@redhat.com>


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On 07.04.22 10:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 06.04.22 15:32, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> When onlining a new memory page in a guest the Xen balloon driver is
>> adding it to the ballooned pages instead making it available to be
>> used immediately. This is meant to enable to add a new upper memory
>> limit to a guest via hotplugging memory, without having to assign the
>> new memory in one go.
>>
>> In case the upper memory limit will be raised above 4G, the new memory
>> will populate the ZONE_NORMAL memory zone, which wasn't populated
>> before. The newly populated zone won't be added to the list of zones
>> looked at by the page allocator though, as only zones with available
>> memory are being added, and the memory isn't yet available as it is
>> ballooned out.
> 
> I think we just recently discussed these corner cases on the -mm list.

Indeed.

> The issue is having effectively populated zones without manages pages
> because everything is inflated in a balloon.

Correct.

> That can theoretically also happen when managing to fully inflate the
> balloon in one zone and then, somehow, the zones get rebuilt.

I think you are right. I didn't think of that scenario.

> build_zonerefs_node() documents "Add all populated zones of a node to
> the zonelist" but checks for managed zones, which is wrong.
> 
> See https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20220201070044.zbm3obsoimhz3xd3@master

I found commit 6aa303defb7454 which introduced this test. I thought
it was needed due to the problem this commit tried to solve. Maybe I
was wrong and that commit shouldn't have changed the condition when
building the zonelist, but just the ones in the allocation paths.

> 
>>
>> This will result in the new memory being assigned to the guest, but
>> without the allocator being able to use it.
>>
>> When running as a PV guest the situation is even worse: when having
>> been started with less memory than allowed, and the upper limit being
>> lower than 4G, ballooning up will have the same effect as hotplugging
>> new memory. This is due to the usage of the zone device functionality
>> since commit 9e2369c06c8a ("xen: add helpers to allocate unpopulated
>> memory") for creating mappings of other guest's pages, which as a side
>> effect is being used for PV guest ballooning, too.
>>
>> Fix this by checking in xen_online_page() whether the new memory page
>> will be the first in a new zone. If this is the case, add another page
>> to the balloon and use the first memory page of the new chunk as a
>> replacement for this now ballooned out page. This will result in the
>> newly populated zone containing one page being available for the page
>> allocator, which in turn will lead to the zone being added to the
>> allocator.
> 
> This somehow feels like a hack for something that should be handled in
> the core instead :/

Okay, I'll rework the patch (better wording might be: replace) to switch
build_zonerefs_node() to use populated_zone() instead of managed_zone().


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-07  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06 13:32 [PATCH] xen/balloon: fix page onlining when populating new zone Juergen Gross
2022-04-06 23:31 ` kernel test robot
2022-04-07  2:06 ` kernel test robot
2022-04-07  5:09 ` kernel test robot
2022-04-07  8:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-07  8:50   ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2022-04-07  9:00     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 23:16       ` Wei Yang

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