From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@arm.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Nick Terrell <terrelln@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, david.hildenbrand@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/3] mm: Free contiguous order-0 pages efficiently
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:04:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ff3d230-d48d-4a9c-aac8-30a7b80c4775@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9834200a-492c-4705-a2b2-e76cc0ba5392@arm.com>
On 4/29/26 14:31, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 29/04/2026 13:04, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 06:33:26 -0400 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think we should revert the original patch.
>>>
>>> The premise is that we can save some allocator calls by requesting
>>> higher orders and splitting them up into singles. This is a frivolous
>>> and short-sighted use of a very coveted and expensive resource.
>
> I'm not sure it's that simple. First off, vmalloc has preferred to allocate high
> order pages for quite a while, it's just that the patch you're referring to
> makes it try even harder. So reverting the patch doesn't completely revert the
> behaviour, it just reduces it.
>
> Performance benefits because those high order pages are mapped appropriately in
> the page table - i.e. 1G PUD, 2M PMD, (or 64K CONTPTE on arm64). So it's not
> solely about the number of cycles spent in the allocator; the HW is used more
> efficiently. vmalloc only splits to order-0 for the benefit of the caller,
> because there are some places that assume they can access each returned struct page.
>
> And all the order-0 pages of the original high order page are freed at the same
> time, so it's not like we are destroying the contiguous resource; it remains
> intact for the next user (well, ignoring that some will be freed to the pcpu
> list - this series solves that wrinkle). I've heard it argued that this approach
> is actually _better_ for conserving contiguous blocks because it's keeping the
> lifetime of all the constituent pages bound together and reducing fragmentation.
> I've never seen any data though...
Right, that's what Willy has said: allocating+freeing larger blocks, especially
for unmovable data, reduces fragmentation as a whole. And that theory makes
sense for me in the context here.
I don't think we want to revert the original patch.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-29 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-01 10:16 [PATCH v6 0/3] mm: Free contiguous order-0 pages efficiently Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-04-01 10:16 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] mm/page_alloc: Optimize free_contig_range() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-04-01 10:16 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] vmalloc: Optimize vfree with free_pages_bulk() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-04-01 10:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 15:13 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-04-01 10:16 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Optimize __free_contig_frozen_range() Muhammad Usama Anjum
2026-04-22 13:42 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] mm: Free contiguous order-0 pages efficiently Ryan Roberts
2026-04-22 15:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29 10:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-29 12:04 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-29 12:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-04-29 13:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-30 12:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-29 13:52 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-30 12:32 ` Ryan Roberts
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