From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "'Con Kolivas'" <kernel@kolivas.org>, <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, "Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: RE: Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg"
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4t16i2$13uiu1@orsmga001.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605171823.24476.kernel@kolivas.org>
Con Kolivas wrote on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:23 AM
> On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:32, Tim Chen wrote:
> > It seems like just one sleep longer than INTERACTIVE_SLEEP is needed
> > kick the priority of a process all the way to MAX_BONUS-1 and boost the
> > sleep_avg, regardless of what the prior sleep_avg was.
> >
> > So if there is a cpu hog that has long sleeps occasionally, once it woke
> > up, its priority will get boosted close to maximum, likely starving out
> > other processes for a while till its sleep_avg gets reduced. This
> > behavior seems like something to avoid according to the original code
> > comment. Are we boosting the priority too quickly?
>
> Two things strike me here. I'll explain them in the patch below.
>
> How's this look?
> ---
> The relationship between INTERACTIVE_SLEEP and the ceiling is not perfect
> and not explicit enough. The sleep boost is not supposed to be any larger
> than without this code and the comment is not clear enough about what exactly
> it does, just the reason it does it.
>
> There is a ceiling to the priority beyond which tasks that only ever sleep
> for very long periods cannot surpass.
It looks bad. I don't like it. The priority boost is even more peculiar
in this patch.
> --- linux-2.6.17-rc4-mm1.orig/kernel/sched.c 2006-05-17 15:57:49.000000000 +1000
> +++ linux-2.6.17-rc4-mm1/kernel/sched.c 2006-05-17 18:19:29.000000000 +1000
> @@ -904,20 +904,14 @@ static int recalc_task_prio(task_t *p, u
> }
>
> if (likely(sleep_time > 0)) {
> - /*
> - * User tasks that sleep a long time are categorised as
> - * idle. They will only have their sleep_avg increased to a
> - * level that makes them just interactive priority to stay
> - * active yet prevent them suddenly becoming cpu hogs and
> - * starving other processes.
> - */
> - if (p->mm && sleep_time > INTERACTIVE_SLEEP(p)) {
> - unsigned long ceiling;
> + unsigned long ceiling = INTERACTIVE_SLEEP(p);
>
> - ceiling = JIFFIES_TO_NS(MAX_SLEEP_AVG -
> - DEF_TIMESLICE);
> - if (p->sleep_avg < ceiling)
> - p->sleep_avg = ceiling;
> + if (p->mm && sleep_time > ceiling && p->sleep_avg < ceiling) {
> + /*
> + * Prevents user tasks from achieving best priority
> + * with one single large enough sleep.
> + */
> + p->sleep_avg = ceiling;
The assignment of p->sleep_avg = ceiling doesn't make much logical sense.
Because INTERACTIVE_SLEEP is scaled proportionally with nice value, e.g.
the lower the nice value, the lower the interactive_sleep. However, priority
calculation is inverse of p->sleep_avg, e.g. the smaller the sleep_avg, the
smaller the bonus, thus the higher dynamic priority.
Take one concrete example: for a prolonged sleep, say 1 second, nice(-10)
will have a priority boost of 4 while nice(0) will have a priority boost of
9. The ceiling algorithm looks like is reversed. I would think kernel should
at least enforce same ceiling value independent of nice value.
- Ken
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-17 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-08 23:18 Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Tim Chen
2006-05-09 0:43 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-09 1:07 ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-12 0:04 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-13 12:27 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-13 13:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-14 16:03 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-15 19:01 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-15 23:45 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 1:22 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-16 1:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 4:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-16 23:32 ` Tim Chen
2006-05-17 4:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 4:45 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-17 5:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 8:23 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 9:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 10:25 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 12:46 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 13:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 15:10 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 17:21 ` Ray Lee
2006-05-17 19:33 ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2006-05-18 0:35 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 1:10 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18 1:38 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 5:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 5:52 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 7:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 12:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19 1:10 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 23:17 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 1:30 ` [PATCH] sched: fix interactive ceiling code Con Kolivas
2006-05-19 2:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-19 14:37 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 16:19 ` tim_c_chen
2006-05-18 23:34 ` Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 1:07 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 4:07 ` Mike Galbraith
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2006-05-18 4:01 Al Boldi
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