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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Andi Kleen" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <borislav.petkov@amd.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"André Przywara" <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	"Andreas Herrmann" <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] cpu: intel, amd: mask cleared cpuid features
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:06:08 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500E4960.8040307@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120721103715.GA3632@aftab.osrc.amd.com>

On 07/21/2012 02:37 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> (+ Andre who's been doing some cross vendor stuff)
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:37:33PM +0400, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
>> If 'clearcpuid=N' is specified in boot options, CPU feature #N won't be
>> reported in /proc/cpuinfo and used by the kernel. However, if a
>> userpsace process checks CPU features directly using the cpuid
>> instruction, it will be reported about all features supported by the CPU
>> irrespective of what features are cleared.
>>
>> The patch makes the clearcpuid boot option not only clear CPU features
>> in kernel but also mask them in hardware for Intel and AMD CPUs that
>> support it so that the features cleared won't be reported even by the
>> cpuid instruction.
>>
>> This can be useful for migration of virtual machines managed by
>> hypervisors that do not support/use Intel VT/AMD-V hardware-assisted
>> virtualization technology.
> As they say in Star Wars: "I have a bad feeling about this."
>
> So opening the floodgates to people fiddling with this (not only
> migrators) makes me feel pretty uneasy. And I won't wonder if all of
> a sudden strange failures start to appear because code is querying
> cpuid features but some funny distro has disabled it in its kernel boot
> options.
>
> Or some other obscure case where the culprit is hidden in kernel command
> line options.
>
> If it were only needed for migration, then I'd say you guys can use
> msr-tools and run a script as root on the target machine to which you
> want to migrate to and toggle the feature bits you want.

If msr-tools are used for cpuid masking, we will either get 
inconsistency between /proc/cpuinfo:flags and the output of the cpuid 
instruction or have to "synchronize" the clearcpuid boot option and the 
userspace app using msr-tools, which seems to be inconvenient. So, IMO, 
it would be better to have such functionality implemented in the kernel.

> I don't think cross vendor migration alone justifies having a generic
> kernel feature like that.
>
> Thanks.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-24  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-20 16:37 [PATCH 1/2] cpu: common: make clearcpuid option take bits list Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-20 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] cpu: intel, amd: mask cleared cpuid features Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-20 17:10   ` Andi Kleen
2012-07-20 17:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25 11:51     ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-20 17:20   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-20 18:21     ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-20 20:19       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-20 20:37         ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-21 10:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-24  7:06     ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2012-07-24  7:48       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-24  8:14       ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-24  8:29         ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-24 10:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-24 11:09             ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-24 12:34               ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-24 12:44                 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-25 10:31                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 10:58                     ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-25 11:02                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 11:17                         ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-25 11:43                           ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 11:31                     ` Alan Cox
2012-07-25 11:46                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 10:31                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 10:43                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-25 11:39                     ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25  0:57               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25  6:58                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-25 14:13                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-07-25 11:49                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2012-07-24  9:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-24 10:32           ` Alan Cox
2012-07-24 11:04             ` Borislav Petkov

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