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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sd: do not set changed flag on all unit attention conditions
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:16:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50126A64.9040206@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1342562390.3039.100.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On 07/17/2012 11:59 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 12:36 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:11:57AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> There's no such thing in the market today as a removable disk that's
>>> resizeable.  Removable disks are for things like backup cartridges and
>>> ageing jazz drives.  Worse: most removeable devices today are USB card
>>> readers whose standards compliance varies from iffy to non existent.
>>> Resizeable disks are currently the province of storage arrays.
>>
>> The virtual disks exported by aacraid are both marked removable and
>> can be resized.
> 
> So what are properties of these things? ... or is this just an instance
> of a RAID manufacturer hacking around a problem by adding a removable
> flag?
> 
Presumably.

The general intention is to automatically catch any disk resizing.
As the SCSI stack (used to) ignore these things that was their way
of working around it.

Curiously, though; the aacraid driver is the only one doing this,
plus the process is quite involved (using a proprietary application
for doing so etc).

None of the FC driver do this, despite the fact that resizing a disk
is even easier here.

I even tried to remove that line once, but then got told off by then
Adaptec that I would break their apps.
Since then there's a patch in the SLES kernel for adding a module
option switching off this behaviour.

We should ask Adaptec/PMC-Sierra here.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-27 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-16 16:06 [PATCH] sd: do not set changed flag on all unit attention conditions Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 16:18 ` James Bottomley
2012-07-16 17:20   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17  7:45     ` James Bottomley
2012-07-17  8:34       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17  8:40         ` James Bottomley
2012-07-17  8:54           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17  9:11             ` James Bottomley
2012-07-17  9:28               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 12:21                 ` James Bottomley
2012-07-17 12:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 13:32                     ` James Bottomley
2012-07-17 16:36               ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-17 16:47                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 16:50                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-17 18:45                   ` Mike Christie
2012-07-17 18:49                     ` Mike Christie
2012-07-17 21:12                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-17 21:59                 ` James Bottomley
2012-07-27 10:16                   ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2012-07-25 12:09               ` Hannes Reinecke

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