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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.9-rc1-mm1
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:51:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50490000.1093553473@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <412DC47B.4000704@kolivas.org>

--On Thursday, August 26, 2004 21:07:39 +1000 Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
>> 
>> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.9-rc1/2.6.9-rc1-mm1/
>> 
>> 
>> - nicksched is still here.  There has been very little feedback, except that
>>   it seems to slow some workloads on NUMA.
> 
> That's because most people aren't interested in a new cpu scheduler for
> 2.6. The current one works well enough in most situations and people
> aren't trying -mm to fix their interactive problems since they are few
> and far between. The only reports about adverse behaviour with 2.6 we track down to "It behaves differently to what I expect" or applications with no (b)locking between threads suck under load. Personally I think the latter is a good thing as it encourages better coding, and the former is something we'll have with any alternate design.

Well ... it'd be nice to know what nicksched was trying to fix. Then maybe
we could try to measure it. There's lots of stuff in the changelog about
what technical stuff was fiddled with ... but nothing I can see about what
it was meant to acheive.

> The only feedback we got on staircase was that it helped NUMA somewhat and Nick and Ingo made some criticisms (not counting any benchmarks I had to offer). The only feedback on nickshed was that it hurt NUMA somewhat, SMT interactivity was broken (an easy enough oversight), and I did not comment to avoid giving biased criticism.

The main thing I liked about staircase was it seemed to simplify things.
Having mere mortals comprehend the code seems like a Good Plan (tm).

The fact that it seemed to bounce tasks around a crapload less was a nice
bonus ;-) Cache is king.

M.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-26 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-26  8:47 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-08-26 11:07 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-08-26 14:28   ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Jurriaan
2004-08-26 18:25     ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Thomas Davis
2004-08-26 14:36   ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-26 14:45     ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-08-26 15:35       ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-26 16:38     ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-08-26 20:36       ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-26 20:55       ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-26 23:19         ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-08-26 23:43           ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-27  0:37           ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Nuno Silva
2004-08-27  0:46             ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-08-27  0:51               ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-27  0:55                 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-08-27  0:58         ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rick Lindsley
2004-08-27 20:54           ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-27 21:54             ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rick Lindsley
2004-08-27 22:29               ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-03 21:11               ` schedstat-2.6.8.1 [was: Re: 2.6.9-rc1-mm1] Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-08  7:09                 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-09-04 18:35               ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-08  8:10                 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rick Lindsley
2004-09-04 23:10               ` latency.c [was: Re: 2.6.9-rc1-mm1] Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-08  8:12                 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-09-08 12:02                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-26 20:51   ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-08-27  1:43     ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Nick Piggin
2004-08-26 12:06 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-26 19:40   ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2004-08-26 17:58 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 (compile stats) John Cherry
2004-08-26 18:53 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 - undefined references - [PATCH] Paolo Ornati
2004-08-28  8:54   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-08-28  9:45     ` Paolo Ornati
2004-08-26 22:46 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-26 22:50   ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-08-26 23:53 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Tomasz Torcz
     [not found] ` <20040827043132.GJ2793@holomorphy.com>
2004-08-27 21:42   ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  5:26 ` [0/4] standardized waitqueue hashing William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  5:31   ` [1/4] standardize bit waiting data type William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  5:35     ` [2/4] consolidate bit waiting code patterns William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  5:37       ` [3/4] eliminate bh waitqueue hashtable William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  5:38         ` [4/4] eliminate inode " William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  6:17     ` [1/4] standardize bit waiting data type Andrew Morton
2004-08-28  6:34       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  6:40         ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-28  6:48           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:20             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:22               ` [2/4] consolidate bit waiting code patterns William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:23                 ` [3/4] eliminate bh waitqueue hashtable William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:24                   ` [4/4] eliminate inode " William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:43                   ` [3/4] eliminate bh " Andrew Morton
2004-08-28  9:34                 ` [2/4] consolidate bit waiting code patterns Andrew Morton
2004-08-28  9:51                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-28  9:51                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:18     ` [1/4] standardize bit waiting data type Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-28  9:20       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-28  9:06 ` [patch] 2.6.9-rc1-mm1: megaraid_mbox.c compile error with gcc 3.4 Adrian Bunk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-28 14:14 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Sid Boyce
2004-08-28 15:22 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 Hugh Dickins

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