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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:31:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5059F367.5020104@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120919045038.GA2248@netboy.at.omicron.at>

On 09/18/2012 09:50 PM, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:29:50AM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
>> I believe its mostly historical, but on some architectures that
>> history has become an established ABI, making it technical.
> Fine, but what do you mean by "ABI?" Are you talking about magic
> addresses for functions?
On powerpc, I mean magic addresses where userland can find structures 
that it can use to calculate time.

On ia64 I mean the fsyscall method (which is arch specific).

> Without knowing the dirty details, what I imagine is a jump/branch
> from the arch-specific code into the common implementation.
>
> Can that be done?
In the two cases above, what you suggest unfortunately isn't possible 
(at least to my understanding - arch maintainers jump in to correct me).

With powerpc, there is no arch specific kernel code involved, its just a 
data structure the kernel exports that is accessible to userland. The 
execution logic lives in userland libraries, or sometimes application 
code itself.

With ia64's fsyscall, its a special mode that limits what you can do and 
which registers you access. So you couldn't just jump to other code 
while in that mode.

But maybe someone has a neat idea on how to get around this?

thanks
-john


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-17 22:04 [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 1/6][RFC] time: Move timekeeper structure to timekeeper_internal.h for vsyscall changes John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 2/6][RFC] time: Move update_vsyscall definitions to timekeeper_internal.h John Stultz
2012-09-27  3:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 3/6][RFC] time: Convert CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL to CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL_OLD John Stultz
2012-09-27  3:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 4/6][RFC] time: Introduce new GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:05 ` [PATCH 5/6][RFC] time: Only do nanosecond rounding on GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL_OLD systems John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:05 ` [PATCH 6/6][RFC] time: Convert x86_64 to using new update_vsyscall John Stultz
2012-09-17 23:49 ` [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18  0:20   ` John Stultz
2012-09-18  0:43     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18 18:02     ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-18 18:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18 18:29       ` John Stultz
2012-09-19  4:50         ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19  5:30           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-19 16:31           ` John Stultz [this message]
2012-09-19 17:03             ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19 17:54               ` John Stultz
2012-09-19 18:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-19 20:50                   ` Luck, Tony
2012-09-19 21:11                     ` John Stultz
2012-09-20  7:36                       ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19 21:15                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20 14:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-20 17:32     ` Andy Lutomirski

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