From: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Gergo Koteles <soyer@irl.hu>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
anisse@astier.eu, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@kernel.org>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2026 15:38:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5069963.GXAFRqVoOG@natalenko.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260203012313.GA280953@killaraus>
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On úterý 3. února 2026 2:23:13, středoevropský standardní čas Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Oleksandr,
>
> (Cc'ing Nicolas Dufresne)
>
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 12:45:15PM +0100, Oleksandr Natalenko wrote:
> > On pondělí 2. února 2026 12:40:12, středoevropský standardní čas Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > If I understand correctly, it would be more forward-thinking to develop
> > > > virtual camera support in PipeWire rather than in the kernel.
> > >
> > > I don't think there's even a need for development in PipeWire
> > >
> > > $ gst-launch-1.0 \
> > > videotestsrc ! \
> > > video/x-raw,format=YUY2 ! \
> > > pipewiresink mode=provide stream-properties="properties,media.class=Video/Source,media.role=Camera"
> > >
> > > This gives me a virtual camera in Firefox. Extending the GStreamer
> > > pipeline to get the video stream from the network should be quite
> > > trivial.
> >
> > So far, I came up with this:
> >
> > * sender:
> >
> > $ gst-launch-1.0 pipewiresrc path=<webcam_id> ! image/jpeg, width=1280, height=720, framerate=24/1 ! rndbuffersize max=1400 ! udpsink host=<receiver_host> port=<receiver_port>
> >
> > * receiver:
> >
> > $ gst-launch-1.0 udpsrc address=<receiver_host> port=<receiver_port> ! queue ! image/jpeg, width=1280, height=720, framerate=24/1 ! jpegparse ! jpegdec ! pipewiresink mode=provide stream-properties="properties,media.class=Video/Source,media.role=Camera" client-name=VirtualCam
> >
> > Please let me know if I do something dumb here. Trial and error to
> > make this work took a couple of hours for me, but it seems to provide
> > what I need.
>
> There's nothing dumb at all, especially given that it works :-) I have
> been able to reproduce it locally (using a different pipeline on the
> sender side).
>
> I compared your pipelines with another JPEG-over-UDP setup I used a
> while ago, which used an rtpjpegpay element before udpsink on the sender
> side to encapsulate the payload in RTP packets, and an rtpjpegdepay
> element on the receiver side after udpsrc. This helps the receiver
> synchronize with the sender if the sender is started first. The full
> pipelines are
>
> * Sender:
>
> gst-launch-1.0 \
> v4l2src ! \
> video/x-raw,pixelformat=YUYV,size=640x480 ! \
> jpegenc ! \
> rtpjpegpay ! \
> udpsink host=192.168.10.200 port=8000
>
> * Receiver:
>
> gst-launch-1.0 \
> udpsrc port=8000 ! \
> application/x-rtp,encoding-name=JPEG,payload=26 ! \
> rtpjpegdepay ! \
> jpegdec ! \
> video/x-raw,pixelformat=YUYV,size=640x480 ! \
> queue ! \
> pipewiresink mode=provide \
> stream-properties="properties,media.class=Video/Source,media.role=Camera" \
> client-name="Remote Camera"
>
> Unfortunatley this doesn't work, when the pipewire client connects to
> the stream on the receiver side I get
>
> ERROR: from element /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstPipeWireSink:pipewiresink0: stream error: no more input formats
>
> Nicolas, would you have any wisdom to share about this and tell me if I
> did something dumb ? :-) There's no hurry.
Just to share my current state of affairs:
* sender:
$ gst-launch-1.0 pipewiresrc path=<webcam_id> ! video/x-h264, width=1280, height=720, framerate=24/1 ! rtph264pay ! rtpstreampay ! udpsink host=<receiver_host> port=<receiver_port>
* receiver:
$ gst-launch-1.0 udpsrc address=<receiver_host> port=<receiver_port> ! queue ! application/x-rtp-stream,encoding-name=H264 ! rtpstreamdepay ! application/x-rtp,encoding-name=H264 ! rtph264depay ! h264parse ! openh264dec ! pipewiresink mode=provide stream-properties="properties,media.class=Video/Source,media.role=Camera" client-name=VirtualCam
I chose H.264 because of much lower (tenfold) traffic comparing to MJPEG, wrapped this into RTP, opted in for OpenH264 decoder because I read it was handling low latency streams better than avdec_h264, and tested this setup with both Firefox and Chromium, and it actually worked pretty reliably, so I'm impressed now.
The only issue I have with this thing is that once a tab with meeting in the browser is closed, the whole receiver pipeline stops gracefully because "PipeWire link to remote node was destroyed". I didn't find a way to tell the pipeline to just restart, so in fact I had to wrap it into a Python script with Gst.parse_launch() and friends, and add error message parsing to restart the pipeline inside the script.
Leaving this in public, because it's a straightforward and potentially widely used setup, yet there's little to no info on how to do it properly, and the knowledge is scattered across random posts of varying age.
--
Oleksandr Natalenko, MSE
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-03 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-01 13:33 [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 18:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 19:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 20:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:14 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 20:26 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 23:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:25 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02 1:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-02 7:16 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02 11:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 9:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02 9:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02 11:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:36 ` Gergo Koteles
2026-02-02 11:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:45 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 1:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 14:38 ` Oleksandr Natalenko [this message]
2026-02-03 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 21:39 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 21:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:27 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 20:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 1:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 22:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-03 9:50 ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-03 15:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
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