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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:41:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506BF339.6020201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1210030937490.23544@pobox.suse.cz>

On 10/03/2012 01:13 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> 
>>>>> 	CPU 0				CPU 1
>>>>> 	kmem_cache_destroy()
>>>>
>>>> What about the get_online_cpus() right here at CPU0 before
>>>> calling mutex_lock(slab_mutex)? How can the cpu_up() proceed
>>>> on CPU1?? I still don't get it... :(
>>>>
>>>> (kmem_cache_destroy() uses get/put_online_cpus() around acquiring
>>>> and releasing slab_mutex).
>>>
>>> The problem is that there is a CPU-hotplug notifier for slab, which
>>> establishes hotplug->slab.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>>  Then having kmem_cache_destroy() call
>>> rcu_barrier() under the lock
>>
>> Ah, that's where I disagree. kmem_cache_destroy() *cannot* proceed at
>> this point in time, because it has invoked get_online_cpus()! It simply
>> cannot be running past that point in the presence of a running hotplug
>> notifier! So, kmem_cache_destroy() should have been sleeping on the
>> hotplug lock, waiting for the notifier to release it, no?
> 
> Please look carefully at the scenario again. kmem_cache_destroy() calls 
> get_online_cpus() before the hotplug notifier even starts. Hence it has no 
> reason to block there (noone is holding hotplug lock).
> 

Agreed.

> *Then* hotplug notifier fires up, succeeds obtaining hotplug lock, 

Ah, that's the problem! The hotplug reader-writer synchronization is not just
via a simple mutex. Its a refcount underneath. If kmem_cache_destroy() incremented
the refcount, the hotplug-writer (cpu_up) will release the hotplug lock immediately
and try again. IOW, a hotplug-reader (kmem_cache_destroy()) and a hotplug-writer
(cpu_up) can *NEVER* run concurrently. If they do, we are totally screwed!


Take a look at the hotplug lock acquire function at the writer side:

static void cpu_hotplug_begin(void)
{
        cpu_hotplug.active_writer = current;

        for (;;) {
                mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
                if (likely(!cpu_hotplug.refcount))   <================ This one!
                        break;
                __set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
                mutex_unlock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
                schedule();
        }   
}

> kmem_cache_destroy() calls rcu_barrier in the meantime, and blocks itself 
> on the hotplug lock there.
> 
> Please note that the get_online_cpus() call in kmem_cache_destroy() 
> doesn't play *any* role in this scenario.
> 

Please consider my thoughts above. You'll see why I'm not convinced.


Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-02 16:14 Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 21:27   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:49     ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:58       ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 23:31         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 23:48           ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  0:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  0:45               ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  3:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  3:50                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  6:08                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  8:21                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  9:46                 ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 12:22                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 12:53                     ` [PATCH] CPU hotplug, debug: Detect imbalance between get_online_cpus() and put_online_cpus() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 21:13                       ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-04  6:16                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-05  3:24                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-10-05  5:35                             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 14:50                     ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:55                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 16:00                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:15                 ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:34                   ` [PATCH v3] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:00                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 15:05                       ` [PATCH v4] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:49                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 18:49                         ` David Rientjes
2012-10-08  7:26                           ` [PATCH] [RESEND] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-10  6:27                             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-03  3:59           ` Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  4:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  4:15               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 20:39 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 22:17   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  3:35     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  3:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  4:04         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  7:43           ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  8:11             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-10-03  8:19               ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  8:30                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  9:24                   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  9:58                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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