From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:00:13 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <506BF795.7000604@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1210031013110.23544@pobox.suse.cz>
On 10/03/2012 01:49 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>
>> On 10/03/2012 01:13 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> CPU 0 CPU 1
>>>>>>> kmem_cache_destroy()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the get_online_cpus() right here at CPU0 before
>>>>>> calling mutex_lock(slab_mutex)? How can the cpu_up() proceed
>>>>>> on CPU1?? I still don't get it... :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (kmem_cache_destroy() uses get/put_online_cpus() around acquiring
>>>>>> and releasing slab_mutex).
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that there is a CPU-hotplug notifier for slab, which
>>>>> establishes hotplug->slab.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>> Then having kmem_cache_destroy() call
>>>>> rcu_barrier() under the lock
>>>>
>>>> Ah, that's where I disagree. kmem_cache_destroy() *cannot* proceed at
>>>> this point in time, because it has invoked get_online_cpus()! It simply
>>>> cannot be running past that point in the presence of a running hotplug
>>>> notifier! So, kmem_cache_destroy() should have been sleeping on the
>>>> hotplug lock, waiting for the notifier to release it, no?
>>>
>>> Please look carefully at the scenario again. kmem_cache_destroy() calls
>>> get_online_cpus() before the hotplug notifier even starts. Hence it has no
>>> reason to block there (noone is holding hotplug lock).
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> *Then* hotplug notifier fires up, succeeds obtaining hotplug lock,
>>
>> Ah, that's the problem! The hotplug reader-writer synchronization is not just
>> via a simple mutex. Its a refcount underneath. If kmem_cache_destroy() incremented
>> the refcount, the hotplug-writer (cpu_up) will release the hotplug lock immediately
>> and try again. IOW, a hotplug-reader (kmem_cache_destroy()) and a hotplug-writer
>> (cpu_up) can *NEVER* run concurrently. If they do, we are totally screwed!
>>
>>
>> Take a look at the hotplug lock acquire function at the writer side:
>>
>> static void cpu_hotplug_begin(void)
>> {
>> cpu_hotplug.active_writer = current;
>>
>> for (;;) {
>> mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
>> if (likely(!cpu_hotplug.refcount)) <================ This one!
>> break;
>> __set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
>> mutex_unlock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
>> schedule();
>> }
>> }
>
> I acutally just came to the same conclusion (7 hours of sleep later, the
> mind indeed seems to be brighter ... what a poet I am).
>
> Lockdep doesn't know about this semantics of cpu_hotplug_begin(), and
> therefore gets confused by the fact that mutual exclusion is actually
> achieved through the refcount instead of mutex (and the same apparently
> happened to me).
No, that's not the problem. Lockdep is fine. The calltrace clearly shows that
our refcounting has messed up somewhere. As a result, we really *are* running
a hotplug-reader and a hotplug-writer at the same time! We really need to fix
*that*! So please try the second debug patch I sent just now (with the BUG_ON()
in put_online_cpus()). We need to know who is calling put_online_cpus() twice
and fix that culprit!
>
> So right, now I agree that the deadlock scenario I have come up with is
> indeed bogus (*), and we just have to annotate this fact to lockdep
> somehow.
Yes, the deadlock scenario is bogus, but the refcounting leak is for real
and needs fixing.
>
> And I actually believe that moving the slab_mutex around in
> kmem_cache_destroy() is a good anotation (maybe worth a separate comment
> in the code), as it not only makes the lockdep false positive go away, but
> it also reduces the mutex hold time.
>
I'm fine with this, but the real problem is elsewhere, like I mentioned above.
This one is only a good-to-have, not a fix.
> (*) I have seen machine locking hard reproducibly, but that was only with
> additional Paul's patch, so I guess the lock order there actually was
> wrong
If refcounting was working fine, Paul's patch wouldn't have caused *any* issues.
With that patch in place, the 2 places where rcu_barrier() get invoked (ie.,
kmem_cache_destroy() and deactivate_locked_super()) both start waiting on
get_online_cpus() until the slab cpu hotplug notifier as well as the entire
cpu_up operation completes. Absolutely no problem in that! So the fact that
you are seeing lock-ups here is another indication that the problem is really
elsewhere!
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-03 8:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-02 16:14 Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 21:27 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:58 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 23:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 23:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 0:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 0:45 ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 3:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 3:50 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 6:08 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 8:21 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 9:46 ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 12:22 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 12:53 ` [PATCH] CPU hotplug, debug: Detect imbalance between get_online_cpus() and put_online_cpus() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-04 6:16 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-05 3:24 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-10-05 5:35 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 14:50 ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:55 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 16:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:15 ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:34 ` [PATCH v3] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:00 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 15:05 ` [PATCH v4] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:49 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 18:49 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-08 7:26 ` [PATCH] [RESEND] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-10 6:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-03 3:59 ` Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 4:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 4:15 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 20:39 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 22:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 3:35 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 3:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 4:04 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 7:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 8:11 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 8:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 8:30 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-10-03 9:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 9:58 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
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