From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507487.90352.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070812213605.GA25883@one.firstfloor.org>
--- Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 10:48:05AM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> >
> > --- Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > Entries are never deleted, although they can be modified.
> > >
> > > The modification case still seems racy then.
> >
> > Fair enough. I'll look into real list management.
>
> You don't necessarily need more list management if you don't
> plan to remove entries, but just replace them.
>
> e.g. what could work to atomically replace is:
>
> - Make the buffer a pointer to an allocated buffer that also
> contains a struct rcu_head.
> - Reader: Does rcu_read_lock() around list walk (that just disables
> preemption on preemptible kernels and is otherwise a nop).
> Also uses rcu_reference for reading the pointer.
> - Writer: Continues using the mutex to protect against other writers.
> When changing an entry allocate a new buffer + rcu_head. Initialize
> buffer. Replace pointer. Free old buffer using call_rcu()
>
> The RCU would just make sure the buffer is not freed while other
> CPUs are still accessing it. It also means they can use stale
> rules for a time, but it is a strictly bounded time
> (bounded to max time walking the list plus max time any interrupt
> handlers inbetween run [admittedly that can be very long in theory,
> but it's all logically only a single rule check])
Thank you. You have no idea how helpful that little suggestion was.
Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-12 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-11 17:57 [PATCH] Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 19:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-11 19:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 3:39 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-11 19:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-11 21:01 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 21:47 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-12 1:21 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 4:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-12 19:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 23:18 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-08-13 1:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-13 2:36 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-13 2:45 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-13 4:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-16 20:58 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-17 4:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-17 9:46 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-08-18 5:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-19 21:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-21 13:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-21 15:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-22 3:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-22 4:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-07 16:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-20 14:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-21 7:37 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-21 15:35 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-22 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-22 18:47 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-23 7:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 20:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 23:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 11:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-12 19:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-11 23:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12 1:36 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 11:49 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12 17:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-12 21:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-12 21:46 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-08-12 3:45 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-12 17:16 ` Casey Schaufler
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