From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"devel@linuxdriverproject.org" <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
"olaf@aepfle.de" <olaf@aepfle.de>,
"apw@canonical.com" <apw@canonical.com>,
"andi@firstfloor.org" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Drivers: hv: Add Hyper-V balloon driver
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:34:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5076060D.1030101@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121009181458.e59e7094.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On 10/09/2012 06:14 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 00:09:12 +0000 KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>>> + if (!pg) {
>>>> + *alloc_error = true;
>>>> + return i * alloc_unit;
>>>> + }
>>>> +
>>>> + totalram_pages -= alloc_unit;
>>> Well, I'd consider totalram_pages to be an mm-private thing which drivers
>>> shouldn't muck with. Why is this done?
>> By modifying the totalram_pages, the information presented in /proc/meminfo
>> correctly reflects what is currently assigned to the guest (MemTotal).
> eh? /proc/meminfo:MemTotal tells you the total memory in the machine.
> The only thing which should change it after boot is memory hotplug.
[...]
> Why on earth do balloon drivers do this? If the amount of memory which
> is consumed by balloons is interesting then it should be exported via a
> standalone metric, not by mucking with totalram_pages.
Balloon drivers are trying to fake a form of page-by-page memory
hotplug. When they allocate memory from the kernel, they're actually
giving the pages back to the hypervisor to redistribute to other
guests. They reduce totalram_pages to try and reflect that the memory
is no longer the kernel (in Xen, at least, the pfns will no longer have
any physical page underlying them).
I agree this is pretty ugly; it would be nice to have some better
interface to indicate what's going on. At one point I tried to use the
memory hotplug interfaces for larger-scale dynamic transfers of memory
between a domain and the host, but when I last looked at it, it was too
coarse grained and heavyweight to replace the balloon mechanism.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-10 23:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-07 23:59 [PATCH 0/2] Drivers: hv K. Y. Srinivasan
2012-10-07 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Export vm_committed_as K. Y. Srinivasan
2012-10-07 23:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] Drivers: hv: Add Hyper-V balloon driver K. Y. Srinivasan
2012-10-08 0:45 ` Greg KH
2012-10-08 3:37 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-08 5:45 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 14:53 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-09 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-10 0:09 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-10 1:14 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-10 2:26 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-10 23:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2012-10-10 23:56 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-11 8:05 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 9:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-08 0:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Export vm_committed_as Greg KH
2012-10-08 3:35 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-08 13:35 ` Greg KH
2012-10-08 13:45 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-09 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-10 0:11 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-10-10 1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-10 3:18 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-03 14:09 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-05 22:12 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-05 22:33 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-06 14:46 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 22:01 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-08 22:05 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-08 22:08 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-08 22:14 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-08 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-06 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-06 12:53 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-08 13:28 ` KY Srinivasan
2012-11-08 21:55 ` David Rientjes
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