From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Hao, Xudong" <xudong.hao@intel.com>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] x86: clear vmcss on all cpus when doing kdump if necessary
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:16:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507E8575.4040908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <507E17C0.9070305@cn.fujitsu.com>
On 10/17/2012 04:28 AM, Zhang Yanfei wrote:
> 于 2012年10月15日 23:43, Avi Kivity 写道:
>> On 10/12/2012 08:40 AM, Zhang Yanfei wrote:
>>> Currently, kdump just makes all the logical processors leave VMX operation by
>>> executing VMXOFF instruction, so any VMCSs active on the logical processors may
>>> be corrupted. But, sometimes, we need the VMCSs to debug guest images contained
>>> in the host vmcore. To prevent the corruption, we should VMCLEAR the VMCSs before
>>> executing the VMXOFF instruction.
>>
>> How have you verified that VMXOFF doesn't flush cached VMCSs already?
>>
>
> I tried some tests, for example, I made copies for every vmcs, and in the kdump
> path, I backed up all the loaded vmcs into the copies before vmxoff.
> After generating the vmcore, I retrieve the vmcss and their copies, and compare them,
> no differences.
>
> Another test is using VMCLEAR to clear all the loaded vmcs before VMXOFF,
> and compare the vmcss and their copies, there are indeed differences between the
> vmcs and its copy.
>
> I know the tests may be not so convincing, for example, I used memcpy to back up
> the vmcss and it is an ordinary memory operation. But to ensure the non-corruption
> of the vmcss in the vmcore, I think we should VMCLEAR the vmcss before VMXOFF just
> as the Intel spec says.
Sorry, I was unclear -- I was referring to the spec, I wasn't sure
whether VMXOFF is defined to flush VMCSes or whether it just invalidates
on-chip caches so that it won't flush them out in the future, corrupting
memory. We don't want to depend on actual behaviour as it may change
with future version.
Copying some Intel folk, maybe they can clarify it.
>
>>>
>>> The patch set provides an alternative way to clear VMCSs related to guests
>>> on all cpus when host is doing kdump.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure the sysctl is really necessary. The only reason to turn if
>> off is if the corruption is so severe that the loaded vmcs list itself
>> causes a crash. I think it should be rare enough that we can do it
>> unconditionally.
>>
>
> You mean not using sysctl and just let VMCLEAR-VMCSS be a default behaviour? If so,
> I agree with you.
Yes, that's what I meant.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-17 10:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-12 6:40 [PATCH 0/3] x86: clear vmcss on all cpus when doing kdump if necessary Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-12 6:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/kexec: clear vmcss on all cpus " Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-12 6:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: make crash_clear_loaded_vmcss valid when kvm_intel is loaded Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-12 6:45 ` [PATCH 3/3] sysctl: introduce a new interface to control kdump-vmcs-clear behaviour Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-15 15:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: clear vmcss on all cpus when doing kdump if necessary Avi Kivity
2012-10-17 2:28 ` Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-17 10:16 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-10-18 1:12 ` Zhang Yanfei
2012-10-18 10:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19 4:51 ` Zhang Yanfei
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