* Re: [PATCH] Linux 3.8-merge version information
2012-12-11 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2012-12-11 19:33 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-12-15 11:33 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Oliver Hartkopp @ 2012-12-11 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linus Torvalds; +Cc: linux-kernel
Thanks for your explanation.
Indeed i was not really aware of commit counter as the first number, even if i
used CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y for a while now.
The obviously outdated Kconfig help of CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO told me:
A string of the format -gxxxxxxxx will be added to the localversion
if a git-based tree is found. The string generated by this will be
appended after any matching localversion* files, and after the value
set in CONFIG_LOCALVERSION.
(The actual string used here is the first eight characters produced
by running the command:
$ git rev-parse --verify HEAD
which is done within the script "scripts/setlocalversion".)
Maybe you can integrate parts of your comprehensive answer into this help
text, as it will fit better than my awkward English %-)
Tnx & best regards,
Oliver
On 11.12.2012 19:57, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net> wrote:
>> As the automatically generated git version information is misleading in the
>> merge window, name the kernel in the merge window as 3.8-merge .
>
> This really doesn't help.
>
> 90% of the commits during the merge window wouldn't be based on that
> Makefile change anyway, but on some much older version. So when
> bisecting, for example, you'll see Makefiles with much older version
> numbers, even though the commits got merged into the 3.8 merge window.
>
> Also, we have code to generate the version number automatically. In
> particular, I encourage people to use git trees and
> CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y, because then your /var/log/messages (and
> uname -r) will contain the exact git version of your kernel. So when
> you see something like
>
> Linux version 3.7.0-rc8-00041-gcaf491916b1c
>
> in your message log, you'll know that the kernel you were running back
> then was 41 commits past -rc8, and had git commit ID of caf491916b1c.
> And that is really useful for things like bisections ("Ok, I know it
> worked three days ago - what kernel was I running then?") much more so
> than a Makefile change would be (never mind how unreliable the version
> info in the makefile is).
>
> So this is why we only change the version in the Makefile when we do a
> new tagged release.
>
> Linus
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2012-12-11 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-11 19:33 ` Oliver Hartkopp
@ 2012-12-15 11:33 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2012-12-15 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linus Torvalds; +Cc: Oliver Hartkopp, linux-kernel
Hi!
On Tue 2012-12-11 10:57:21, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net> wrote:
> > As the automatically generated git version information is misleading in the
> > merge window, name the kernel in the merge window as 3.8-merge .
>
> This really doesn't help.
Well, I'd say it helps in the common case.
> 90% of the commits during the merge window wouldn't be based on that
> Makefile change anyway, but on some much older version. So when
> bisecting, for example, you'll see Makefiles with much older version
> numbers, even though the commits got merged into the 3.8 merge
> window.
No, it does not solve bisect, but at least you get something
reasonable in the boot menu...?
> Also, we have code to generate the version number automatically. In
> particular, I encourage people to use git trees and
> CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y, because then your /var/log/messages (and
> uname -r) will contain the exact git version of your kernel. So when
> you see something like
>
> Linux version 3.7.0-rc8-00041-gcaf491916b1c
Problem is that CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO adds a lot of time to
build. Like... making "empty" build twice as slow.
Pavel
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